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Re: [BRHSlist] Neponset, Illinois

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Neponset, Illinois
From: "DELLA HAUG" <glenehaug@m...>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:37:20 -0700
Steve:

You are correct, signal bridge 123.41 was 3 track, and dates from at least 1931 
at that location, and was taken out in 1967 when signal bridges were respaced 
west of bridge 119.18 for CTC. The original Signal Valuation records don't show 
this bridge but show 2 track bridges placed new in 1918 at MP 122.9 and 123.3. 
This is probably an error, since it's likely that the 100 and 83 car sidings 
that existed in the late 20's were also there in 1918, and they interfere with 
the placement of 2 track bridges.

Also, after a more thorough review, I think the capacities you listed for 1927 
might have been based on 36 ft. cars, as I notice the timetables for 1929 show 
a car length reduction to 97 and 75 cars, which is about the difference you 
would expect between 36 ft. and 40 ft. cars.

Glen Haug

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Holding
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:30 PM
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Neponset, Illinois

Glen

My 1966 track chart shows a signal bridge at about mp 123.4 and it spans the 
westward pass
sjh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: DELLA HAUG 
To: BRHSlist 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Neponset, Illinois


Thanks Steve, for the information out of the 1927 timetable. These lengths are 
the same as listed in early 30's timetables. The location and length of sidings 
shown on alignment charts of the same era suggest that the capacities at 
Neponset are based on 40' cars. If the 100 and 83 capacities existed from 1918 
to 1924, then the siding locations conflict with 2 track signal bridge 
locations listed on the Signal Valuation Records, some of which are suspect. 
Verifying the sidings helps to verify the correct signal bridge location.

Glen Haug

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Holding
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 9:18 PM
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Neponset, Illinois

Glen
Timetable No. 52 June 5. 1927 shows

Westward 100 other tracks 79
Eastward 83 other tracks 79

Problem is I am not sure it it would be 36 ft or 40 ft car lengths

sjh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: zephyr98072 
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:55 PM
Subject: [BRHSlist] Neponset, Illinois


If someone on the list has a Chicago & Aurora Division timetable from 
before 1924, could you look up and tell me what capacity is shown for 
the Westward and Eastward sidings at Neponset? I'm looking 
specifically for the years between 1918 and 1924, but I will take any 
information that someone might have. Thanks in advance.

Glen Haug 


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