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Re: [BRHSlist] FYI To O-Gaugers: Review of Lionel's Issued CB&Q E5 AA Se

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] FYI To O-Gaugers: Review of Lionel's Issued CB&Q E5 AA Set
From: "Norm_Andersen" <Norm_Andersen@m...>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:24:42 -0400
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I've bought one of these E5 AA sets. It is a great disappointment having been 
looking for a Q E5 not an E6 painted up in Burlington livery. There is no 
resemblance to the actual E5 I'm sorry to say. For the price listed I would 
have thought they could have put some more effort into replicating a Q E5 ... 
such as they did in the UP veranda.

I have shared my views with Lionel twice.

Norm Andersen
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From: bill_og 
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 13:10 PM
Subject: [BRHSlist] FYI To O-Gaugers: Review of Lionel's Issued CB&Q E5 AA Set


FYI. Lionel has released their CB&Q E5 AA set in the last 2 weeks. 

They are essentially the same as Lionel's catalog illustration. The 
bodies, fuel tanks, and trucks are painted silver. The lower sides 
are smooth with no fluting and with no shadow-line stripes as a 
fluting substitute. There are no immitation red grills on either 
side of the Mars light. The lettering is the Zephyr Gothic font. 
There is a full color BR herald on the nose. 

View the models at your dealer if interested. 

Bill H. 



--- In BRHSlist@y..., "bill_og" <haywarb@b...> wrote:
> This is an FYI to 3-rail O-gauge CB&Q fans from an "individual BRHS 
> member". I am not employed or involved in any "commercial 
> enterprise" for the sale of "rail model" or "railfan merchandise". 
> This post is offered in the same spirit as the FYI product 
> announcements in the BRHS's Zephyr Newsletter and website Model 
> index. 
> 
> Lionel's 2002/Volume 2 catalog is now available at dealers but not 
> yet posted on their website. They have 2 CB&Q offerings:
> 
> 1. E5 AA diesel set for MSRP $650 (dealors often offer discounts). 
> From the catalog illustration, the model is based on their E6 
tooling 
> (the prototypre E6 was similar but not identical to the prototype 
> E5). One A unit is powered, the other is a dummy. The units are 
> named Silver Carrier (#9915A) and Silver Clipper (#9915B, note that 
> the prototype Silver Clipper was a B unit). I can not tell from 
the 
> catalog illustration if the units are simply painted silver or if 
> they will be "chromed" like Lionel's 1980 Zephyr F3's. The 
> nose "window" stripes are red but the illustration does not show 
> any "grill" stripes on either side of the Mars light. The trucks 
and 
> fuel tanks are silver in the illustration. The illustration shows 
> decals for both the E5 model plate and the EMD builder's plate. 
The 
> word "BURLIN #### GTON" on the sides is split by one of the side 
> vents (the E6 tooling has the taller side windows that does not 
> allow "BURLINGTON" to be prototypically placed below the vents and 
> above the windows. Also, the lower sides appear to be smooth (the 
> E5's had the ribbed fluting here); possibly Lionel will either add 
> the ribbing or possibly use a "shadow-line" parallel lines to 
> simulate fluting. 
> 
> Although MTH did a CB&Q E6 ABA set recently, the E5 has never been 
> offered before in O-gauge, probably since the BR lines are the only 
> prototypical roads for E5 tooling. Lionel's attempt may be the 
> closest O-gauge ever gets to a true E5 model. Although the catalog 
> illustration has some deviations, I am hoping that the released 
model 
> surpasses those expectations (this was certainly the case with 
> Lionel's recent BR/C&S U30C which is a fantastic model). 
> 
> No mention is made of a matching passenger consist. Lionel usually 
> announces these in subsequent catalogs. I hope they offer a vista 
> dome Twin Cities Zephyr (never done in O-gauge). Lionel usually 
does 
> their streamlined cars in plated aluminum. 
> 
> 2. Lionel has also offered a Chinese red stock car with black/white 
> cows for MSRP $55. 
> 
> 
> FYI only since I am not in any "commercial enterpripe". Visit your 
> favorite dealer if you want more info. 
> 
> Bill H.


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