All,
I agree with Greg, just used the latest message.
Perhaps you need to look at it from a different perspective.
I see many questions about why a particular locomotive or
waycar was used on a particular part of the Railroad. In
many cases "Work Rules" is the answer.
The prime example is the BNSF of today. When the
locomotive fleets were integrated in 1997 you could pretty
much say that no AT&SF unit was lead qualified on the BN
and no BN unit was lead qualified on the AT&SF. The way
the work rules are applied at different locations is not
uniform. The crews between Cicero and Havre would just
claim penalties for an AT&SF leader but from Havre West
the unit could not lead.
This problem is still with us and the commitment to make it
go away has not been easy to obtain.
Just recently 4 units were picked out for service out of
St Joseph where they have contract fueling and inspection.
The two Ex AT&SF units were made lead qualified just so
they could be kept there with no penalty issues.
I'm sure there were similar situations on the CB&Q.
Let's here about them,
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Myers" <myers.gregory@w...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 31 August, 2002 05:47
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Work Rules
> Another perspective - from someone who is (1) an "outsider" - whatever
that
> exactly means, (2) a modeler, (3) an amateur historian, (4) someone who
has
> negotiated something over 100 labor contracts in the past 25 years. Labor
> contracts and work rules are a BORING read - they are a great cure for
> insomnia. However, history is about people and the things that they did.
> I've researched a little about labor relations on the Burlington and it
> looks like interesting stuff. I think that stories about real people and
how
> they lived with (and found ways around) that boring stuff in the rule
books
> would give a great insite into the people who helped make the Burlington
the
> railroad that it was. Since the BRHS is a historical society, that would
> seem to make it a logical and appropriate place for that material. It
would
> also give us modelers some flavor of the personalities that make it
possible
> for our "toy" (Burlington LINES EAST - there, got my plug in) trains to go
> running down the rails. I say go for it Leo.
>
> Greg Myers
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <PSHedgpeth@a...>
> To: <pawnbaw@e...>; <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <cbqrr47@y...>; <Dave_Lotz@m...>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Work Rules
>
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> > Here's my take on work rules being "boring" or "befuddling" to
outsiders.
> >
> > I have made no secret over the years of the fact that I have not the
> > slightest interest in modeling or anything related to it, however I'm
> aware
> > that probably 50-75% of the group are modelers and perhaps have little
> > interest in the old stories or characters which I live for.
> >
> > That's what makes for a good organization. We all pay our dues and we
all
> > get some of what we want..The BRHS gives us the forum for whatever our
> > interests are.
> >
> > My delete button is very effective in eliminating my need to plow
through
> the
> > model stuff, as I'm sure said button is equally effective for those who
> have
> > no interest in my "living in the past diatribes"....That's fine.
> >
> > Let's all do what we do best and enjoy what each one contributes to the
> > organization.
> >
> > We can easily delete or not read what we don't want and feast on what
each
> of
> > us thinks is his own idea of "good stuff". Let's do it all and let
> everyone
> > benefit from each other's interest and expertise.
> >
> > I say...do the work rules Leo....it can be made interesting and quite
> > humorous as well.
> >
> > Pete
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