John,
I'm sorry but you do not understand "Storage In Transit".
That is the application of inbound billing to outbound
movements. With degerulation it is gone now, and it's
good riddance. It was terrible from the viewpoint of
equipment utilization and resulted in a lot of free moves.
Never saw a "slip bill" used for anything but an empty.
The "Mine Bills" that Railroads like the C&O used just
had blank spaces. When the cars were humped for weight
and sold the "Mine Bills" were used to move the cars to
destination. Yes, they were only half sized but they were
still revenue waybills. Took a lot of clerks to rate a 100
car mine run after it had been weighed and dispositioned.
There is a little bit about the process in S Kip Farrington's
"Railroads At War". Or course, he describes the job in
terms of patriotism.
Not a very interesting subject. Just a job, not a hobby.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@y...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 July, 2002 22:39
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] No Bills
> I don't want to make things too confusing, but don't
> get things mixed up. In diversion, the shipper
> consigns the load (with a bill of lading and a
> waybill) to themselves at some distant point. Before
> the load gets there, it is sold and a new destination
> and consignee are shown on the waybill and BoL.
> Storage in transit works somewhat the same way. Again
> the car is billed to a distant point and the railroad
> holds it until it is billed to it's final destination.
> The railroad charges a fee for this "in transit
> privilege". In both cases the car has billing. A no
> bill car is moved on a "slip way bill" or a switchlist
> to a holding track, pending sale of the coal, lumber,
> grain, etc. and the car's consignment.
> John D. Mitchell, Jr.
>
> --- Russell Strodtz <vlbg@p...> wrote:
> > Leo,
> >
> > That's right, most of the tracks at Casey and Teague
> > are leased
> > for the storage of plastic loads and empties. What
> > I was
> > refering to was places like Tulsa where some of the
> > shippers
> > tried to use yard space to hold cars for billing.
> > Even at
> > Prairie Du Chien Fina leases one car length of the
> > Westward
> > siding to hold a single inbound car until 3M wants
> > it.
> >
> > Some trucking companies have even set up reload
> > centers,
> > (like at Lorenzo where they even have a locomotive),
> > and
> > this suits the RR just fine. Lot of private
> > trackage that
> > does not interfere with other customers.
> >
> > This is straying away from the "Q". Before their
> > time.
> >
> > Russ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <qutlx1@a...>
> > To: <BRHSlist@Y...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 31 July, 2002 21:05
> > Subject: [BRHSlist] No Bills
> >
> >
> > > John, I'm familiar with the long standing practice
> > of billing a car to
> > some
> > > distant destination and then diverting it enroute
> > while you brokered or
> > sold
> > > it. Didn't know these were refered to as no bills.
> > Belief lumber,produce
> > and
> > > meat were often handled in this manner. And as you
> > mention coal. Wasn't
> > this
> > > sometimes referred to as storage in transit? I
> > remember loads of flour
> > being
> > > routed to kingdom and then back in this way.
> > > Russ,It's my understanding that the bulk of the
> > platic loads rest in SIT
> > > (Storage in Transit)Yards and then are billed out
> > to destination. For
> > example
> > > Equistar at Morris does this w/the 'J' at Joliet.
> > It's really BIG in
> > Houston.
> > > SIT yards. everywhere.
> > > Leo
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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