The Silver Chair, when it was converted to a Dinette
Coach, had a small kitchen in it at one end of the car
where hamburgers could be grilled, etc. It was like a
hamburger stand at a sports arena. One cook manned
the kitchen and a window counter opened into it where
orders were filled.
Other wise the car was all coach seats. There were no
dinette tables. The car was thus analogous to an
Amcafe, rather than a real dinette.
sjl
--- Original Message ---
From: Aeolus3@a...
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] TZ Consists
>In a message dated 1/22/02 10:16:27 PM Eastern
Standard Time,
>bradslaney@w... writes:
>
>
>>: What does "outshopped" refer to-an existing car
rebuilt
>> or a newly constructed car? What was the difference
between the
>> Morning/Afternoon Zephyrs and the Twin Zephyrs?
Were there 4 separate
>> consists ?, or were only 2 consists used?
>
>"Outshopped" in this case means the Aurora Shops
rebuilt Silver Parlor and
>Silver Chair the 2 flat top parolor cars into Dinette-
Coaches in 1968 and one
>in 1969. I would think that no exterior changes were
made to either car. I
>don't know if there was a small kitchen placed in the
cars or they had the
>"Food Vending Machines" placed in the cars like the
Nebraska Zephyr in the
>late 1960's. Remember the rebuilding of the CZ open
section pullmans into
>48 seat chair cars, no external changes were made to
these cars.
>
>Silver Alchemy was rebuilt at the Aurora Shops in
1945, thus becoming the
>first Vista Dome car in the country. Outshopped as
Silver Dome, I have seen
>pictures of Silver Dome running in front of the
articulated TCZ equipment.
>Then of course Silver Castle followed in 1949 (?).
>
>There were 2 sets of equipment used in TCZ service.
Each set was serviced
>over night at Chicago and St Paul. Since the schedual
was so tight the
>turnaround at either Chicago or St Paul there was no
time to service the
>Diner or the Buffet Car, all they did was do a really
fast clean up of the
>consist. Which is why I think the Vista Dome Obs from
the KCZ were sometimes
>used in place of the Buffet Cars. You would have a
round end obs coupled to a
>full baggage car with the flat end KCZ obs at the
other end of the train.
>
>I have seen shots of a GN Mountain Observation
running with her round end
>coupled to one of the fluted baggage cars.
>
>The TCZ is a fun consist to play with, over the years
many things showed up.
>GN and NP Coaches, combined with the EB and NCL.
>
>I rode the TCZ when I was a child.... Where Nature
Smiles For 300 Miles....
>was so true!
>
>Loren
>
>
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