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Re:CZ vs. DZ diner & coffee shop

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Subject: Re:CZ vs. DZ diner & coffee shop
From: Denny Anspach <danspach@m...>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:00:21 -0700
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The interesting post on the DZ two section operations in January 1956 caught my interest, especially that the diner and coffee shop cars were split.

I have presumed, and probably incorrectly, that the CZ and DZ diners, and coffee shop cars respectively were essentially laid out in similar fashion insofar as the food service functions were concerned. The CZ diners and coffee shop cars were designed specifically to work with other back-to-back, especially when it came to pantry and storage space. Specifically and essentially, the CZ diner had by design very little pantry space, relying on such space in the coffee shop car.

For this reason, the CZ diners did not do well when unconnected to the coffee shops. When in early Amtrak service on the SFZ, part of the problem was solved by routinely situating the former SP Domes ahead of the diner, the vast empty space below the dome floor substituting in a fashion for the otherwise absent former coffee shop space.

I do not have specific information at hand at how long the CZ diners lasted in Amtrak service, but I understood that they were not popular because of the poor storage.

I would presume that the DZ diners might have been able to "make do" in this regard (absent the coffee shop) because they only had to serve evening and morning meals between terminal commissary visits.

Curious: how did the DZ diners do in Amtrak service?

Denny
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Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA

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