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Re: [CBQ] Re: branchline combines

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: branchline combines
From: "Duncan Cameron" <d.cameron@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:44:51 -0400
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Jonathan,
I've got the picture in Mike's book but thanks for putting the ruler down for 
me.  That will help when it comes to doing the windows.  I'd wondered about the 
actual sizes and whether any of the New England Rail Service window sets would 
work.  I'll have to start looking at cars soon.  You may be right that I need 
to build everything between the doors.  Any Ideas about doing rivets well?
Duncan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bigbearoak 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:04 PM
  Subject: [CBQ] Re: branchline combines


    For anyone interested, there's a good pic of 3537 on p. 16 of Mike Spoor's 
color guide to CB&Q rolling stock. 

  Putting scale ruler to Bill Glick's diagram book, the window pairs on the 
3530 series cars are about the same height but almost 10% wider than those on 
the Pullmans (faithfully) modeled by Branchline, so presumably their cars would 
make less than perfect starting points. I don't know about the cars Charlie 
mentions, but it wouldn't surprise me if either AHM or IHC was conveniently a 
bit large for scale; certainly worth a look. 

  Regarding the notorious rib or bar above the windows, let us know what you 
decide to do. So far as I know it is one of those defining Burlington features 
that never appears on generic models and is not easily replicated without 
re-laying out the entire car sides to get them to look right. Letterboards on 
the Q's cars with ribs were broad - maybe 3-4 inches wider than on a standard 
Pullman. Tricky to model and to capture the appearance if starting with, say, a 
narrower Branchline letterboard. Could make lettering difficult too, if adding 
the rib constricted vertical space. I might be inclined to fabricate a new, 
larger letterboard and raise the car sides.

  I agree w/Charlie, you're in for a good bashing. But you also will end up 
with a pretty neat model. 

  Have fun!
  Jonathan

  --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Cameron" <d.cameron@...> wrote:
  >
  > Charlie,
  > The car is number 3537, one of eight cars converted for branchline use in 
1948-49 from AC&F built coaches. Yes, it had a baggage door cut into it but 
kept both coach vestibules. The "rib" is low on the letterboard - maybe a 
quarter of the way up between the windows and the roof. Something similar 
appears on the 4500 and 6100 coaches.
  > I'll take a look at some of the cars you mentioned. Thanks.
  > Duncan
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Charlie Vlk 
  > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:28 PM
  > Subject: Re: [CBQ] branchline combines
  > 
  > 
  > Duncan-
  > 
  > I think I know the type of car you are talking about..... IIRC they are 
steel sheathed wood cars.
  > Some of the Pullman steel sheathed cars had the rib above the letterboard 
as well. If you have a car number the exact heritage of the car would be easy 
to trace using Glick's books or Joe Douda's source material
  > 
  > I'm not sure there is a really good starting point for the cars. I would 
look at the AHM Pullman or some of the IHC Pullmans to use as a "core" kit. 
Maybe you'l luck out and the window spacing from one of them will work out. The 
IHC cars are all over the map as to height of letterboard, windows, and girder 
panels (even though all the Pullmans should be identical) so one might work 
out. Thinking about it, the Athearn Coach and Baggage cars might be a starting 
point as well... they had a pretty deep letterboard.
  > 
  > It is going to be an extensive kitbash as the car type I'm thinking about 
was a coach that had a baggage door cut into the side, so was itself a kitbash.
  > 
  > Charlie Vlk
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