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Re: [BRHSlist] More about steel water tanks and water cranes

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] More about steel water tanks and water cranes
From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Rob
As a starting place, I put a taple in BB #35, of the
warer service equipment on the south end of the
Beardstown Division.
John 
--- Rob Adams <steamera@netins.net> wrote:
> The structure painting Data Sheet in the latest
> Zephyr includes some
> interesting information.  Some of it is directly
> applicable to questions
> I posted to the list previously.  I am very grateful
> to whomever made
> that material available for publication.  
> 
> RE:  Steel Water Cranes
> The paint color matrix inside mentions that water
> cranes were painted
> "steel car black" as of the 4-20-36 revision.  I was
> under the
> impression that water cranes had been mineral red at
> some point before
> they started donning aluminum paint. 
> 
> Might one of you know the chronology of these
> changes?  Did they indeed
> wear mineral red paint at some point (either earlier
> or later)?  It
> would appear that a modeler of the 1930's (and that
> would include me)
> should be painting them black.
> 
> RE: Paint schemes for Steel Water Tanks/standpipes
> Drawing 60250-B in the data sheet details the
> application of a two-color
> Burlington Route herald to steel water tanks but is
> accompanied by a
> caption that states "May not have been approved".  
> 
> I am pleased to report that it not only must have
> been approved, but was
> definitely put to use.   I recently purchased a
> group of very old
> negatives which included views of at least 13
> different CB&Q water
> tanks, all photographed circa 1930. At least nine of
> these show a BR
> herald on a steel tank or standpipe. All are
> presumably taken on Lines
> East, some certainly on the Hannibal Division. 
> 
> I would very much like to see a copy of drawing
> 60250-A, which
> apparently details a larger sign. 
> 
> RE: Locations of Water Tanks/standpipes
> Are any of you interested in collaborating on a
> project to document the
> locations and types of water facilities on the
> Burlington Route?  
> 
> My ideal goal would be to collect, assemble and
> diseminate the following
> information:
> 
> LOCATION (city/town, state, CB&Q Division, milepost,
> orientation to
> tracks)
> TYPE (both the tank and supporting frame), examples
> might include steel
> standpipe (i.e. a steel cylinder set on a concrete
> pad), steel
> tank/steel frame, wood tank/wood frame, wood
> tank/steel frame, water
> treatment facility, etc.
> DESIGN FEATURES/CHARACTERISTICS (Type of tank roof,
> peaked vs umbrella
> vs flat, Type of bottom and base, etc) 
> CAPACITY (gallons)
> CONSTRUCTION DATE
> STATUS: Extant OR Date(year?) dismantled
> 
> Gravy...
> DIMENSIONS (I don't know if there are any official
> RR sources for this
> info, but ICC valuation reports could provide a
> start, at least for
> early structures)
> EXISTING PHOTO SOURCES (including the photo if
> possible)
> TYPE/NUMBER/ARRANGEMENT OF WATER CRANES (if
> applicable)
> 
> Any takers/helpers?
> 
> As a modeler, I'd think this same sort of thing
> would also be useful for
> fueling/sanding facilities.
> 
> I welcome your ideas/thoughts.
> 
> Best regards, Rob Adams
> 
> 


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