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1. [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:14:13 +0000; The Burlington was the first U.S. railroad to use burnt clay as ballast, commencing in 1880, and I’m researching the subject for a Zephyr article. I know that the first application was in Iowa,; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00072.html (12,823 bytes)
2. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "zephyr98072" <glenehaug@msn.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 08:23:30 +0000; Rupert: I can't comment on the use of burnt clay in the past as ballast in Iowa, because I don't know. I can't see anywhere in alignment charts from the 1950's and 60's that burnt clay is still used; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00076.html (16,367 bytes)
3. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "John Mitchell via Groups.Io" <icrr1680=yahoo.com@groups.io>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 13:07:17 +0000 (UTC); _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#57903) | Reply To Group Mute This Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [archives@nau; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00077.html (15,955 bytes)
4. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Mike Decker" <mdecker@gwtc.net>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:10:09 -0700; Rupert... I'll try and copy an article from the 1904 edition of "Notes on Track" by Camp, and send it to you. It's about the Q burning clay in pits outside of Lincoln, account it was too expensive to; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00079.html (11,627 bytes)
5. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:50:23 +0000; Glen Thanks for this information. Identifying just where the burnt clay ballast was used on the Burlington is the hard part so any data on this would be gratefully received. Is there any indication a; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00081.html (18,407 bytes)
6. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "zephyr98072" <glenehaug@msn.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:11:31 +0000; Rupert: Let me make a list. It should only take a couple of days. It appears that the dates applied were from about 1950 to 1957 or 1958. I can only assume that since it is still listed on the alignm; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00082.html (22,321 bytes)
7. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 21:46:27 +0000; Thanks, Glen. From: CBQ@groups.io On Behalf Of zephyr98072 Sent: Monday, 12 August 2019 8:12 a.m. To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast Rupert: Let me make a list. It should only ta; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00083.html (22,183 bytes)
8. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "zephyr98072" <glenehaug@msn.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 23:59:29 +0000; Rupert: I looked at the alignment charts again. I don't know why I didn't think of this before (and I knew it but it didn't register), the alignment charts list the ballast as burnt SHALE and not bur; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00084.html (27,693 bytes)
9. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:21:08 -0500; _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#57911) | Reply To Group Mute This Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [archives@nau; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00085.html (12,539 bytes)
10. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 00:23:29 +0000; Thanks, Charlie, Ill try for both! Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ From: CBQ@groups.io On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk Sent: Monday, 12 August 2019 12:21 p.m. To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay balla; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00086.html (15,633 bytes)
11. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 00:28:57 +0000; Glen I haven’t seen any reference to the use of shale, but I suspect that the term “clay” was used for any clay soil type that could be fired to make ballast. The 1888 Railroad Gaze; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00087.html (27,328 bytes)
12. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Hudson Leighton" <hudsonl@skypoint.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 17:36:43 -0700; This is a little off topic: During WWII the US Army Air Corp was building Airbases in China, there was no suitable rock for runway construction available, so they made bricks and broke them up to mak; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00088.html (11,957 bytes)
13. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "William Hirt" <whirt@fastmail.com>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:43:01 -0500; The CB&Q 1958 Track Data and General Information - Lines East and West that the archive committee made available says this about burnt shale: "The Sherwyco, a burnt shale is obtained from the Sherwyc; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00089.html (17,142 bytes)
14. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:45:50 -0500; _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#57916) | Reply To Group Mute This Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [archives@nau; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00090.html (14,236 bytes)
15. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:48:06 +0000; OK, thanks. I seem to have generated a lot of talk with this subject! From: CBQ@groups.io On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk Sent: Monday, 12 August 2019 12:46 p.m. To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burnt c; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00092.html (17,618 bytes)
16. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:52:03 +0000; Bill Thanks very much for this piece. Having the coal and shale “sandwich” already in place must have helped keep the cost of burning down, and the Burlington was known as parsimonious fo; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00093.html (19,429 bytes)
17. [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Winton" <runextra@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:19:25 -0700; When I hired onto the BN at Alliance in 1974 there was a lot of red/pink ballast from Alliance to Huntley. There were stretches of grey& white granite ballast within that range but I'd say most of th; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00108.html (12,423 bytes)
18. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:40:38 +0000; Winton Thanks for this information. I'm wondering if this was burnt clay or scoria. Certainly the early reports said that burnt clay ballast wasn't affected by changes in the weather. Scoria usually; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00109.html (14,871 bytes)
19. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:03:35 +0000; Thanks very much for this information. I wonder if this was scoria or burnt clay. Certainly the early reports said that properly burnt clay was not affected by the weather and was well regarded for i; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00110.html (14,791 bytes)
20. Re: [CBQ] Burnt clay ballast (score: 1): Author: "Rupert Gamlen" <gamlenz@hotmail.com>; Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:48:25 +0000; Mike Thanks for this. Ive yet to establish when the practice of burning clay for ballast ceased but Glen Haugs information pointed this ballast being used in Nebraska in the 50s. Perhaps the advent o; /archives/BRHSLIST/2019-08/msg00111.html (15,300 bytes)

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