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To: CBQ@groups.io Precedence: Bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: Sender: CBQ@groups.io List-Id: Mailing-List: list CBQ@groups.io; contact CBQ+owner@groups.io Delivered-To: mailing list CBQ@groups.io Reply-To: CBQ@groups.io Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000727b4505d57fb321" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; q=dns/txt; s=20140610; t=1642119334; bh=15fB2lYLi5AX4vNK1pE0yNwm2sygcyHPovxhK4Nb5zM=; h=Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To; b=vZii0q64E295venHmKM+YEVwJhKrIl1k7HlT23SkkQTdnl7VStyRO+tFS4WkuAwgcFZ eZq+nnsqPxZ5bDUJDaZ8lO4FpcoWJONhIT8nllXFvlUEy2fBZxz++ulApbpxD7FVJl7UK 3G5OJLQs/f1N5lAQ2ke/6fK+tq7jIlyCFo0= --000000000000727b4505d57fb321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 23000-23099 series, class XML1 & !A, were built in 1955 at Havelock with DF loaders, Waugh cushion underframes and Armco nailable steel flooring; Cadillacs for special loading in their day. By the time those photos were taken, that day was long past and they were running out their final miles in general service. In the BN-era pictures, the yellow doors shown were replacements, or had been repaired, and given yellow primer rather than the original mineral red colour. The best explanation for this is that the various car shops were not going to waste time or money matching paint on cars running their last few miles. Unlike say, the Union Pacific which had a variety of different door colours or symbols based on special purposes for the various classes of boxcars, the Hill lines did not generally decorate house cars with special symbols or colours, other than notations for various loading devices or cushion underframes. You can still paint a model with faded yellow doors of course, it just has no special meaning in the BN era when those prototypes were painted. Jim Sandriin Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 14:04, Jim Younger via groups.io wrote: > All the pics show DF boxcars (damage free). Yellow door an identifier? > > Jim Younger > > > On Jan 13, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Rupert Gamlen wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > > Tad > > Are these yellow or gold? Left over from the 1966 RPI Golden Freight Car > Award? Is it coincidence that all three examples were XML-1=E2=80=99s? > > Rupert Gamlen > Auckland NZ > > > > *From:* CBQ@groups.io *On Behalf Of *Tad Blacketer > *Sent:* Friday, 14 January 2022 8:36 am > *To:* CBQ@groups.io > *Subject:* [CBQ] Yellow Doors? > > > > Quick question, I see pictures of red boxcars with yellow doors. Did thi= s > symbolize something or was it just scavenged from the junkyard? If the > yellow meant something, were there other color-coded doors? 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The 23000-23099 series, class XML1 & !A, were built in= 1955 at Havelock with DF loaders, Waugh cushion underframes and Armco nail= able steel flooring; Cadillacs for special loading in their day.=C2=A0 By t= he time those photos were taken, that day was long past and they were runni= ng out their final miles in general service.=C2=A0 In the BN-era pictures, = the yellow doors shown were replacements, or had been repaired, and given y= ellow primer rather than the original mineral red colour.=C2=A0 The best ex= planation for this is that the various car shops=C2=A0were not going to was= te time or money matching paint on cars running their last few miles.=C2=A0= Unlike say, the Union Pacific which had a variety of different door colour= s=C2=A0or symbols based on special purposes for the various classes=C2=A0of= boxcars, the Hill lines did not generally decorate house cars with special= symbols or colours,=C2=A0other than notations for various loading devices = or cushion underframes.=C2=A0

You can still paint=C2=A0a= model with faded yellow doors of course, it just has no special meaning in= the BN era when those prototypes were painted.=C2=A0 Jim Sandriin

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 14:04, Jim Younger via groups.io <frisco2011=3Dyahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
All the pics show DF boxcars (d= amage free).=C2=A0 Yellow door an identifier?

Jim Younge= r


On Jan 13, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Tad

Are these yellow or gold? Left over from the 1966 RPI Golden Freight Car Aw= ard? Is it coincidence that all three examples were XML-1=E2=80=99s?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

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Quick question, I see pictures of red boxcars=C2=A0w= ith=C2=A0yellow doors.=C2=A0 Did this symbolize something or was it just sc= avenged from the junkyard?=C2=A0 If the yellow meant something, were there = other color-coded doors?=C2=A0 I have attached some photos I found online as a reference.=C2=A0=C2=A0

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