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MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: Sender: CBQ@groups.io List-Id: Mailing-List: list CBQ@groups.io; contact CBQ+owner@groups.io Delivered-To: mailing list CBQ@groups.io X-Gm-Message-State: SutTTg2hVwdN8EmAokoAYqYrx703214AA= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23562_1487258754.1642117396948" Content-Length: 13406 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; q=dns/txt; s=20140610; t=1642117402; bh=9uWoUV5apU/jk22fn0iOmK2E5m5vb0FSKicMSe3GNgE=; h=Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To; b=XC+vRVhrlHFRKIcjWjGrAvO3hs3wR26PzyuYtwMYhImVixzkcgPwFoZWcsRJrt1FSlL I/8x+RBe9514rcP14GWkqcLHb4JuVAE5DDY4MAdYa/gzix56YebbzHIiTNowoBHUll0dB 5eZLRVKxj4tK2rOg5RefGNxFM7ZzfVsYrGs= ------=_Part_23562_1487258754.1642117396948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Burlington Bulletin Number 10 on the SSS chair cars has a comprehensive exp= lanation on page 8 of which CB&Q cars received shadow lining. The article i= s authored by Bill Schultz and edited by Hol Wagner, noted CB&Q passenger c= ar authorities. The article states only four Pullman sleepers utilized by the Burlington re= ceived silver paint and shadow lining. These included the #659 Clover Veldt= 8-5, the #670 Poplar Flat 6-6 and the #676 and #677 Happy Hollow Club and = Lancaster Club 1-2-2-2's. These were painted in this scheme to serve as pro= tection or substitute cars for Denver Zephyr service.=C2=A0 Photos of these= cars appear in William Glick's "Burlington Passenger Car Photo Album", alt= hough later in their lifespan so the shadow lining is barely discernible in= some photos. None of the Pullman Betterment cars that ran in the 1940's on the Zephyr Ro= cket and the Exposition Flyer (Zephyr Tower, Rocket Tower, Missouri Tower, = Denver Tower, Minneapolis or Cedar Rapids) received the shadow lining but r= ather only a straight silver paint scheme.As mentioned the six Texas Zephyr= Betterment Pullmans received multi-colored silver areas below and above th= e windows but did not receive shadow lining. Hopefully this is of value in this issue. Dennis Popish=C2=A0=C2=A0 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Vlk To: CBQ@groups.io Sent: Thu, Jan 13, 2022 1:36 pm Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was? #yiv2028797434 #yiv2028797434 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv= 2028797434 #yiv2028797434 p.yiv2028797434MsoNormal, #yiv2028797434 li.yiv20= 28797434MsoNormal, #yiv2028797434 div.yiv2028797434MsoNormal {margin:0in;fo= nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv2028797434 a:link, #yiv202879743= 4 span.yiv2028797434MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yi= v2028797434 span.yiv2028797434EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:wi= ndowtext;}#yiv2028797434 .yiv2028797434MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _f= iltered {}#yiv2028797434 div.yiv2028797434WordSection1 {}#yiv2028797434 I d= on=E2=80=99t believe the Texas Zephyr betterment cars received the simulate= d corrugation treatment, only different shades of aluminum/silver paint to = simulate stainless steel.Zephyr Tower and Rocket Tower used on the Zephyr R= ocket did get the full scheme.=C2=A0 Offhand, I don=E2=80=99t know about th= e Missouri Tower and Denver Tower.A number of other heavyweight Pullmans di= d get the scheme as well as some Burlington Route owned cars.Charlie Vlk = =C2=A0From: CBQ@groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Belsher Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:30 PM To: CBQ groups.io ; CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was? =C2=A0Not sur= e of the name but it appears to be one of the Texas Zephyr Heavyweight Pull= mans with the Faux stripes painted to mimic the Stainless Steel Fluting on = the lightweight cars. =C2=A0Bill BelsherModeling the Fort Worth & Denver in= N Scale =C2=A0On Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 11:01:25 PM CST, BRIAN PAUL = EHNI wrote: =C2=A0 =C2=A0Or any other info like type an= d plan?https://www.ebay.com/itm/294715673126?hash=3Ditem449e6c4a26:g:wvQAAO= Sw2OJh3cAa =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks!=E2=80=94Brian Ehni =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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Burlington Bulletin Number 10 = on the SSS chair cars has a comprehensive explanation on page 8 of which CB= &Q cars received shadow lining. The article is authored by Bill Schultz= and edited by Hol Wagner, noted CB&Q passenger car authorities.

The article states only four Pullman sleepers utilized by the Burlingt= on received silver paint and shadow lining. These included the #659 Clover = Veldt 8-5, the #670 Poplar Flat 6-6 and the #676 and #677 Happy Hollow Club= and Lancaster Club 1-2-2-2's. These were painted in this scheme to serve a= s protection or substitute cars for Denver Zephyr service.  Photos of = these cars appear in William Glick's "Burlington Passenger Car Photo Album"= , although later in their lifespan so the shadow lining is barely discernib= le in some photos.

None of the Pullman Betterment cars that ran in the 1940's on the Zeph= yr Rocket and the Exposition Flyer (Zephyr Tower, Rocket Tower, Missouri To= wer, Denver Tower, Minneapolis or Cedar Rapids) received the shadow lining = but rather only a straight silver paint scheme.
As mentioned the six Texas Zephyr Betterment Pullmans received multi-c= olored silver areas below and above the windows but did not receive shadow = lining.

Hopefully this is of value in this issue.

Dennis Popish  


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net>
To: CBQ@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jan 13, 2022 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was?

I don=E2=80=99t believe the Texas Zephyr betterment car= s received the simulated corrugation treatment, only different shades of al= uminum/silver paint to simulate stainless steel.
Zephyr Tower and Rocket Tower used on the Zephyr Rocket= did get the full scheme.  Offhand, I don=E2=80=99t know about the Mis= souri Tower and Denver Tower.
A number of other heavyweight Pullmans did get the sche= me as well as some Burlington Route owned cars.
Charlie Vlk
 
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@gr= oups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Belsher
Sent:= Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:30 PM
To: CBQ grou= ps.io <cbq@groups.io>; CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was?
 
Not sure of the name but it appears to be one of the Texas Z= ephyr Heavyweight Pullmans with the Faux stripes painted to mimic the Stain= less Steel Fluting on the lightweight cars.
 
Bill Belsher
Modeling the Fort Worth & Denver in N Scale
 
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 11:01:25 PM CS= T, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
Or any other info like type and plan?
 
 
 
Thanks!
=E2=80=94
Brian Ehni
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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