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contact CBQ+owner@groups.io Delivered-To: mailing list CBQ@groups.io Reply-To: CBQ@groups.io X-Gm-Message-State: PhYLwrQgNFgAhlhrPhY7GiIDx703214AA= Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SA9PR18MB37733A456D120FFFB2E5BF28CF949SA9PR18MB3773namp_" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; q=dns/txt; s=20140610; t=1636594226; bh=BHLMKO1ZMJZV1oj8Gmp/pEcEIjrx3JNCQo5NTEsxeRs=; h=Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To; b=rP6qOPhvaW/gtFQFqlqm/tXHqfKSWtAul+1AU2+N6iseCmJ/TGlAGs2Tjy6rdwO7fPs ZhR/ymxeO2q6xRisSZSe+WagSV4jl05UgytHnvPjUNcPgGiRHk2VYuQlWNirRkSSbbZc5 rnPKMhcHNsFMAK3AjPQNlFVh5ZLJHF90V7k= --_000_SA9PR18MB37733A456D120FFFB2E5BF28CF949SA9PR18MB3773namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have a newspaper clip that i think it was in 1850, but i don't 1850. can anybody have any idea better? chuck hatler 0001 HIS VISION FULFILLED NEED DATE SOURCE [we are talking the 1850s, not the 1950s!] It was way back in the '50s, when railroading was much more primitive than = it is to-day, that a prescient event happened to Engineer Joe Van Netta, of= the Northern Cross, now the Quincy branch of the Burlington system. Trains= in those days were not designated by numbers, neither were the engines; co= nductors, engineers and brakemen were furnished time cards showing where "passenger train south= " would meet "passenger train north," which had the right of way and which = would take the "switch." Engines were named after animals, counties and tow= ns. Who that lived on the line of the "Q" in the '50s and is alive to-day i= s not familiar with the "Black Bear" and the "Polar Bear?" and on the North= ern Cross with the "Fulton," the "Knox," the "McDonough," the "Quincy," the= "Plymouth," "Augusta" and *'Macomb?" Who has forgotten the phlegmatic Cady= that pulled the throttle of the "Plymouth" and when the bridge over Crooked creek was washed away by= the heavy spring rains of =9158 offered to jump the "d=97d breach" if they= would give him Colmar for a starting point. It was in the spring of '58 that a new train was scheduled to leave Galesbu= rg at 2:30 a. m. and. Arrived in Quincy at 5:50 a.m., stopping only at Abi= ngdon, Macomb and Augusta. It was a run of 100 miles, and 30 miles an hour = then seemed faster than 70 does to-day. The night in question was portentous of evil; the rain was pouring in torre= nts, and the inky blackness of the night only made the headlight shine with= greater brilliancy, the thunder was muffled at times, like the roar of an = angry animal, the lightning flashed at frequent intervals and were blinding= in effect. It was Van Netta's "run," and he left a call for. 1:45 and went to his room= about nine o'clock, thinking to get as much sleep as the few hours .would = allow. After tossing restless for some time he fell into a disturbed slumbe= r; how long he slept was uncertain; he woke with a start and feelings terribly agitated. He had = had a vision of an accident, in which his youngest brother was horribly man= gled; he tried to dispel the fear, but it was useless; he got up and dresse= d, looked at his watch and saw it was 12:30, too near his; call to go back to bed, and started for his= train; reaching the depot, he told his strange dream, or vision, and said= =93If it was not endangering another life, I would not go out on my run.= =94 The train from Chicago was pulling into the station and there was the usual= turmoil and confusion in changing cars; the train on the Northern Cross wa= s standing on the main track ready to pull out on schedule time. Van Netta= was just coming from the opposite side of his engine, oiler in hand, when = Conductor Goodrich called "All aboard" and gave the signal with his lantern= to leave. As Joe stepped into the cab, someone touched him on the shoulder= and greeted him with a familiar voice. He turned around and' confronted hi= s youngest, brother, who had just arrived from the east. He was speechless = and it was a minute before he was convinced it was not an apparition. Hard= ly knowing what he was doing he pulled the throttle and the train was in mo= tion; it was ten miles to Abingdon, the first stop, and quietly turning to = his brother he said, "When we get to Abingdon, you get off and take a seat = in the rear coach. The young man pleaded and begged the privilege of ridin= g to Quincy with his brother on the engine, but Joe would listen to no arbi= tration; his will was absolute, and when the stop was made at Abingdon Henr= y was sent to the rear coach. "All aboard" was again rung out in the darkness, and again the dim light fr= om the lantern was signaled to go ahead; an easier feeling took possession = of Joe after his brother left the engine, still the rain was pouring down a= s if the floodgates of heaven had been opened; St. Augustine was passed and= the whistle was sounding for Avon; both engineer and fireman were straining every optical nerve pene= trating the driving rain and the oppressive darkness; Prairie City was left= in the dark, and only four miles to Bushnell; the "Macomb" was being teste= d as to her merits of speed, and was acting like a restless spirited race h= orse, fairly quivering under the tender urging of her driver. Joe was comp= lete master of her erratic ways holding her in perfect control with his han= d ever upon, the lever and throttle. Three miles from Bushnell is Kepple creek; again was he peering into the bl= ackness of the night made angry from the unceasing rain; only a few yards f= rom the engine did the headlight penetrate, and as the light flashed upon t= he bridge a whistle for brakes was sounded; it was too late; in another ins= tant the treacherous bridge was reached, and the engine went plunging, into the chasm 20 feet be= low. Van Netta=92s body was found in the wreck completely cut in two, his left h= and still hold of the throttle. Conductor Goodrich was badly but not fatal= ly injured, the fireman was instantly killed and the brakeman crippled for = life; strange to say, not a passenger was injured. The =93vision=94 was fulfilled, except the fate of the brother. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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i have a newspaper clip that i think it was in 1850, but i don't 1850. = ; 
can anybody have any idea better?

chuck hatler


0= 001 HIS VISION FULFILLED NEED DATE SOURCE 

[= we are talking the 1850s, not the 1950s!] 

It was way back in the '50s, when railroading was much more primitive t= han it is to-day, that a prescient event happened to Engineer Joe Van Netta= , of the Northern Cross, now the Quincy branch of the Burlington system. Trains in those days were not designated by numb= ers, neither were the engines; conductors, engineers 

and brakemen were furnished time cards showing where "passenger tr= ain south" would meet "passenger train north," which had the= right of way and which would take the "switch." Engines were nam= ed after animals, counties and towns. Who that lived on the line of the "= ;Q" in the '50s and is alive to-day is not familiar with the "Bla= ck Bear" and the "Polar Bear?" and on the Northern Cross wit= h the "Fulton," the "Knox," the "McDonough," = the "Quincy," the "Plymouth," "Augusta" and *'Macomb?" Who has forg= otten the phlegmatic Cady that pulled the throttle <= /p>

of the "Plymouth" and when the bridge over Crooked creek was = washed away by the heavy spring rains of =9158 offered to jump the "d= =97d breach" if they would give him Colmar for a starting point.  

 

It was in the spring of '58 that a new train was scheduled to leave Gal= esburg at 2:30 a. m. and. Arrived in Quincy at 5:50 a.m., stopping only  at Abingdon, Macomb and Augusta. It was a run of 100 miles, and 30 m= iles an hour then seemed faster than 70 does to-day. 

 

The night in question was portentous of evil; the rain was pouring in t= orrents, and the inky blackness of the night only made the headlight shine = with greater brilliancy, the thunder was muffled at times, like the roar of an angry animal, the lightning flashed at frequ= ent intervals and were blinding in effect. 

 

It was Van Netta's "run," and he left a call for. 1:45 and we= nt to his room about nine o'clock, thinking to get as much sleep as the few= hours .would allow. After tossing restless for some time he fell into a disturbed slumber; how long he slept 

was uncertain; he woke with a start and feelings terribly agitated. He = had had a vision of an accident, in which his youngest brother was horribly= mangled; he tried to dispel the fear, but it was useless; he got up and dressed, looked at his watch and 

saw it was 12:30, too near his; call to go back to bed, and started for= his train;  reaching the depot, he told h= is strange dream, or vision, and said =93If it was not endangering another = life, I would not go out on my run.=94 

 

The train from Chicago was pulling into the station and there was the u= sual turmoil and confusion in changing cars; the train on the Northern Cros= s was standing on the main track ready to pull out on schedule time.  Van Ne= tta was just coming from the opposite side of his engine, oiler in hand, wh= en Conductor Goodrich called "All aboard" and gave the signal wit= h his lantern to leave. As Joe stepped into the cab, someone touched him on the shoulder and greeted him with a familiar voice.= He turned around and' confronted his youngest, brother, who had just arriv= ed from the east. He was speechless and it was a minute before he was convi= nced it was not an apparition.  Hardly knowing what he was doing he pulled the throttle and the trai= n was in motion; it was ten miles to Abingdon, the first stop, and quietly = turning to his brother he said, "When we get to Abingdon, you get off = and take a seat in the rear coach.  The young man pleaded and begged the privilege of riding to Quincy w= ith his brother on the engine, but Joe would listen to no arbitration; his = will was absolute, and when the stop was made at Abingdon Henry was sent to= the rear coach. 

 

"All aboard" was again rung out in the darkness, and again th= e dim light from the lantern was signaled to go ahead; an easier feeling to= ok possession of Joe after his brother left the engine, still the rain was pouring down as if the floodgates of heaven had been op= ened; St. Augustine was passed and the whistle was sounding 

for Avon; both engineer and fireman were straining every optical nerve = penetrating the driving rain and the oppressive darkness; Prairie City was = left in the dark, and only four miles to Bushnell; the "Macomb" was being tested as to her merits of speed, and was= acting like a restless spirited race horse, fairly quivering under the ten= der urging of her driver.  Joe was complete master of her erratic ways holding her in perfect c= ontrol with his hand ever upon, the lever and throttle.  

 

Three miles from Bushnell is Kepple creek; again was he peering into th= e blackness of the night made angry from the unceasing rain; only a few yar= ds from the engine did the headlight penetrate, and as the light flashed upon the bridge a whistle for brakes was sounded;= it was too late; in another instant the treacherous 

bridge was reached, and the engine went plunging, into the chasm 20 fee= t below.

 

Van Netta=92s body was found in the wreck completely cut in two, his le= ft hand still hold of the throttle.  Conductor Goodrich was badly = but not fatally injured, the fireman was instantly killed and the brakeman = crippled for life; strange to say, not a passenger was injured.  

 

The =93vision=94 was fulfilled, except the fate of the brother.
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