Return-Path: Delivered-To: unknown Received: from mailhost.usrp-ltd.com (10.45.0.93:110) by pegasus.nauer.org with POP3; 09 Nov 2021 14:55:01 -0000 Delivered-To: archives@nauer.org Received: (qmail 26593 invoked by uid 168); 9 Nov 2021 08:18:00 -0600 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from web01.groups.io by mailhost (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-2.10st (clamdscan: 0.99.2/26096. mhr: 1.0. spamassassin: 3.3.2. perlscan: 2.10st. Clear:RC:0(66.175.222.12):SA:0(-5.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.775463 secs); 09 Nov 2021 14:18:00 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: bounce+11863+62736+703214+1544929@groups.io via mailhost X-Qmail-Scanner: 2.10st (Clear:RC:0(66.175.222.12):SA:0(-5.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.775463 secs Process 26563) Received: from web01.groups.io (66.175.222.12) by mailhost.usrp-ltd.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Nov 2021 08:17:57 -0600 Received-SPF: pass (mailhost.usrp-ltd.com: SPF record at groups.io designates 66.175.222.12 as permitted sender) X-Received: by 127.0.0.2 with SMTP id CmzfYY704549xL4kcUmbgNQ; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 06:14:00 -0800 X-Received: from mail-ed1-f51.google.com (mail-ed1-f51.google.com [209.85.208.51]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web09.12489.1636467238494658660 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 06:13:58 -0800 X-Received: by mail-ed1-f51.google.com with SMTP id w1so77714186edd.10 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 06:13:58 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: eBjOflMrgRIvng61uTJ3hJO9x703214AA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzrAyfLYgd57xz5JGRv250qvzSH3hhZfmmZ1faaJ1vnOa5/8hX1x8y3BBfcNq1oGGk7EioaJ4FGaQLl8TEYN3c= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5194:: with SMTP id q20mr10686535edd.345.1636467236571; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 06:13:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1316256088.84628.1636403086631@connect.xfinity.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Doug Hartman" Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 08:13:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CBQ] Aurora Depot To: CBQ Precedence: Bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: Sender: CBQ@groups.io List-Id: Mailing-List: list CBQ@groups.io; contact CBQ+owner@groups.io Delivered-To: mailing list CBQ@groups.io Reply-To: CBQ@groups.io Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000528c8d05d05bb896" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; q=dns/txt; s=20140610; t=1636467240; bh=46UsXjb4IE/HSARWBkrqAsxE4iqQ52viM6aSUR9tWw4=; h=Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To; b=BvNYpj7tkj67akcl9DWYKsrfMfCDMZ7eqnCcBjBKOZBKz9oFwtQvAhnt6DpuNDDKOTm uhFb5LOl5tvqSlw4tVBozcUhl/AXMO+QSr6quEz1GVIZ4qdvCcmxSJg9fVvoZEtBqR9uE b3QXdRDOC/wjqQFPj66lBdpTXVOp+oK+Vnk= --000000000000528c8d05d05bb896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the unfortunate aspects for train crews was the lack of an employee parking lot when going to depot to deadhead to Clyde or to get a cab when called for a Depot start (relief job, etc). If it was before morning rush, no problem. But if after, there was rarely any space in east lot (full of commuter's cars) and the west lot - if any spaces left - required a very long hike. As Leo wrote, the east lot was abominable. Just basically a field of ruts, garbage, etc. No markings, cars just jammed in wherever. Crews at other locations (say, Lacrosse, where they stepped off yards from their autos) didn't realize how good they had it :) Doug On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 2:39 PM Leo Phillipp via groups.io wrote: > It like the lots on the south side werefor passengers and employees. They > were first come first served basis. Lots were a mix of cinders, dirt and > maybe a very small amount of gravel. They might have been graded twice > year. Usually did get plowed for snow removal. Which simply made the lack > of spaces worse with piled up snow. > In dry weather the autos always had a nice thick coat of dust on them. > > Leo > > On Nov 8, 2021, at 2:24 PM, James Koretsky > wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > Leo, > > Was the parking lot on the Northern Side of the tracks, specifically for > passengers using the station? > > Thanks again. > > > James > > On 11/08/2021 2:52 PM Leo Phillipp via groups.io > wrote: > > > A couple additional notes. > The subway went under all the tracks and there was an entrance just east > of the tower that allowed access from the parking lot on the North side o= f > the complex. > The south entrance of the subway was outside the depot under what I=E2=80= =99ll > call a portico or glass cover. The Aurora Burlington Credit union was > located in this same area. One had to go up a set of cement steps to acce= ss > the depot waiting room. > > Leo Phillipp > > On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:22 PM, trains@davidstreeter.net wrote: > > First, while the depot was closed and effectively abandoned in 1986 when > Metra moved to the roundhouse site (Amtrak having previously moved to > Naperville), it was only demolished after part of the cornice fell onto > Broadway sometime post-2010 (I forget the exact year). > > Second, keep in mind that nothing here is on a due north-south or > east-west alignment. Broadway is technically a n-s street and Clark e-w, > but they are off from the cardinal directions by at least 30 degrees. The > tracks go through on an angle of close to 45 degrees, northeast to > southwest. > > Clark seems like it's pretty far from the depot to have had a tunnel > extending to it. I never explored the area when it was all still open, bu= t > I my understanding is that the entrance to the underpass to the platform > stairs was outside the depot itself. > > Okay, I just checked the Bing Maps street view, which is old enough to > show the depot still standing. It appears that there was just a sidewalk > along the southeast side of the tracks to just south of the corner of > Broadway and Clark, where (as a train goes east) the embankment changes t= o > the viaduct that carries the tracks to New York St. (okay, there is a sho= rt > section of fill between Clark and Benton). > > -- > David Streeter > > On 11/8/2021 11:57 AM, James Koretsky wrote: > > Hi All, > > In the past I've ask for much information and help on the Aurora Depot, > that was in placed from the Early 30's through it's eventual demolition i= n > 1986, after being moved to the current location in Aurora. Thank you to a= ll > those that answered. > > There is one question that I haven't asked, and I don't have my CB&Q > materials handy is to see if it covered, but was access to platforms 1 an= d > 2, between tracks 2 and 3, done via the underpass that ran North / South > under the tracks from the Depot itself on the south side off South > Broadway, to the north side of the tracks, and up stairs. Was there an > underpass running under the tracks, from this pedestrian underpass to the > East on Clark street? > > James > >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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One of the unfortunate aspects for train crews was the la= ck of an employee parking lot when going to depot to deadhead to Clyde or t= o get a cab when called for a Depot start (relief job, etc).

If it was before morning rush, no problem. B= ut if after, there was rarely any space in east lot (full of commuter's= cars) and the west lot - if any spaces left - required a very long hike.

As Leo wrote, the east lo= t was abominable. Just basically a field of ruts, garbage, etc. No markings= , cars just jammed in wherever.

Crews at other locations (say, Lacrosse, where they stepped off y= ards from their autos) didn't realize how good they had it :)

Doug

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On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 2:39 PM Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=3Daol.com= @groups.io> wrote:
It like the lots on the south side werefor passengers and employe= es. They were first come first served basis. Lots were a mix of cinders, di= rt and maybe a very small amount of gravel. They might have been graded twi= ce year. Usually did get plowed for snow removal. Which simply made the lac= k of spaces worse with piled up snow.=C2=A0
In dry weather the autos al= ways had a nice thick coat of dust on them.

Leo

On Nov 8, 2021, at 2:24 PM= , James Koretsky <jameskoretsky@comcast.net> wr= ote:

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Leo,

Was the parking lot= on the Northern Side of the tracks, specifically for passengers using the = station?

Thanks again.

James
On 11/08/2021 2:52 PM Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=3Daol.com@groups.io> wrote:


A couple additional notes.
The subway went under all the tracks and there was an entrance just eas= t of the tower that allowed access from the parking lot on the North side o= f the complex.
The south entrance of the subway was outside the depot under what I=E2= =80=99ll call a portico or glass cover. The Aurora Burlington Credit union = was located in this same area. One had to go up a set of cement steps to ac= cess the depot waiting room.

Leo Phillipp

On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:22 PM, trains@davidstreeter.net<= /a> wrote:

First, while the depot was closed and effectively abandoned in 1986= when Metra moved to the roundhouse site (Amtrak having previously moved to= Naperville), it was only demolished after part of the cornice fell onto Br= oadway sometime post-2010 (I forget the exact year).

Second, keep in mind that nothing here is on a due north-south or e= ast-west alignment. Broadway is technically a n-s street and Clark e-w, but= they are off from the cardinal directions by at least 30 degrees. The trac= ks go through on an angle of close to 45 degrees, northeast to southwest.

Clark seems like it's pretty far from the depot to have had a t= unnel extending to it. I never explored the area when it was all still open= , but I my understanding is that the entrance to the underpass to the platf= orm stairs was outside the depot itself.

Okay, I just checked the Bing Maps street view, which is old enough= to show the depot still standing. It appears that there was just a sidewal= k along the southeast side of the tracks to just south of the corner of Bro= adway and Clark, where (as a train goes east) the embankment changes to the= viaduct that carries the tracks to New York St. (okay, there is a short se= ction of fill between Clark and Benton).

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David Streeter
On 11/8/2021 11:57 AM, James Koretsky wrote:
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In the past I&#= 39;ve ask for much information and help on the Aurora Depot, that was in pl= aced from the Early 30's through it's eventual demolition in 1986, = after being moved to the current location in Aurora. Thank you to all those= that answered.

There is one qu= estion that I haven't asked, and I don't have my CB&Q materials= handy is to see if it covered, but was access to platforms 1 and 2, betwee= n tracks 2 and 3, done via the underpass that ran North / South under the t= racks from the Depot itself on the south side off South Broadway, to the no= rth side of the tracks, and up stairs. Was there an underpass running under= the tracks, from this pedestrian underpass to the East on Clark street?

James

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