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They w= ere first come first served basis. Lots were a mix of cinders, dirt and may= be a very small amount of gravel. They might have been graded twice year. U= sually did get plowed for snow removal. Which simply made the lack of space= s worse with piled up snow.=20 In dry weather the autos always had a nice thick coat of dust on them. Leo > On Nov 8, 2021, at 2:24 PM, James Koretsky wr= ote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Leo,=20 >=20 > Was the parking lot on the Northern Side of the tracks, specifically for = passengers using the station? >=20 > Thanks again. >=20 >=20 > James >> On 11/08/2021 2:52 PM Leo Phillipp via groups.io wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> A couple additional notes. >> The subway went under all the tracks and there was an entrance just east= of the tower that allowed access from the parking lot on the North side of= the complex. >> The south entrance of the subway was outside the depot under what I=E2= =80=99ll call a portico or glass cover. The Aurora Burlington Credit union = was located in this same area. One had to go up a set of cement steps to ac= cess the depot waiting room. >>=20 >> Leo Phillipp >>=20 >>>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:22 PM, trains@davidstreeter.net wrote:=20 >>>>=20 >>> First, while the depot was closed and effectively abandoned in 1986 whe= n Metra moved to the roundhouse site (Amtrak having previously moved to Nap= erville), it was only demolished after part of the cornice fell onto Broadw= ay sometime post-2010 (I forget the exact year). >>>=20 >>> Second, keep in mind that nothing here is on a due north-south or east-= west alignment. Broadway is technically a n-s street and Clark e-w, but the= y are off from the cardinal directions by at least 30 degrees. The tracks g= o through on an angle of close to 45 degrees, northeast to southwest. >>>=20 >>> Clark seems like it's pretty far from the depot to have had a tunnel ex= tending to it. I never explored the area when it was all still open, but I = my understanding is that the entrance to the underpass to the platform stai= rs was outside the depot itself. >>>=20 >>> Okay, I just checked the Bing Maps street view, which is old enough to = show the depot still standing. It appears that there was just a sidewalk al= ong the southeast side of the tracks to just south of the corner of Broadwa= y and Clark, where (as a train goes east) the embankment changes to the via= duct that carries the tracks to New York St. (okay, there is a short sectio= n of fill between Clark and Benton). >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> David Streeter >>>> On 11/8/2021 11:57 AM, James Koretsky wrote:=20 >>>> Hi All,=20 >>>>=20 >>>> In the past I've ask for much information and help on the Aurora Depot= , that was in placed from the Early 30's through it's eventual demolition i= n 1986, after being moved to the current location in Aurora. Thank you to a= ll those that answered. >>>>=20 >>>> There is one question that I haven't asked, and I don't have my CB&Q m= aterials handy is to see if it covered, but was access to platforms 1 and 2= , between tracks 2 and 3, done via the underpass that ran North / South und= er the tracks from the Depot itself on the south side off South Broadway, t= o the north side of the tracks, and up stairs. Was there an underpass runni= ng under the tracks, from this pedestrian underpass to the East on Clark st= reet? >>>>=20 >>>> James >>>>=20 >=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#62729): https://groups.io/g/CBQ/message/62729 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/86912063/703214 Group Owner: CBQ+owner@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/CBQ/leave/1544929/703214/691670059/xyzzy [= archives@nauer.org] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --Apple-Mail-2EE58A04-A643-4422-A6EB-135DC39E826F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It like the lots on the south side were= for passengers and employees. They were first come first served basis. Lots= were a mix of cinders, dirt and maybe a very small amount of gravel. They = might have been graded twice year. Usually did get plowed for snow removal.= Which simply made the lack of spaces worse with piled up snow. 
I= n dry weather the autos always had a nice thick coat of dust on them.
Leo

= On Nov 8, 2021, at 2:24 PM, James Koretsky <jameskoretsky@comcast.net>= ; wrote:

=EF=BB=BF =20 =20 =20 =20
Leo,

Was the parking= lot on the Northern Side of the tracks, specifically for passengers using = the station?

Thanks again.


James
On 11/08/2021 2:52 PM Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=3Daol.com@g= roups.io> wrote:


A couple additional notes.
The subway went under all the tracks and there was an entrance just eas= t of the tower that allowed access from the parking lot on the North side o= f the complex.
The south entrance of the subway was outside the depot under what I=E2= =80=99ll call a portico or glass cover. The Aurora Burlington Credit union = was located in this same area. One had to go up a set of cement steps to ac= cess the depot waiting room.

Leo Phillipp

On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:22 PM, trains@davidstreeter.net wrote:

First, while the depot was closed and effectively abandoned in 1986= when Metra moved to the roundhouse site (Amtrak having previously moved to= Naperville), it was only demolished after part of the cornice fell onto Br= oadway sometime post-2010 (I forget the exact year).

Second, keep in mind that nothing here is on a due north-south or e= ast-west alignment. Broadway is technically a n-s street and Clark e-w, but= they are off from the cardinal directions by at least 30 degrees. The trac= ks go through on an angle of close to 45 degrees, northeast to southwest.

Clark seems like it's pretty far from the depot to have had a tunne= l extending to it. I never explored the area when it was all still open, bu= t I my understanding is that the entrance to the underpass to the platform = stairs was outside the depot itself.

Okay, I just checked the Bing Maps street view, which is old enough= to show the depot still standing. It appears that there was just a sidewal= k along the southeast side of the tracks to just south of the corner of Bro= adway and Clark, where (as a train goes east) the embankment changes to the= viaduct that carries the tracks to New York St. (okay, there is a short se= ction of fill between Clark and Benton).

--=20
David Streeter
On 11/8/2021 11:57 AM, James Koretsky wrote:
Hi All,=20

In the past= I've ask for much information and help on the Aurora Depot, that was in pl= aced from the Early 30's through it's eventual demolition in 1986, after be= ing moved to the current location in Aurora. Thank you to all those that an= swered.

There is on= e question that I haven't asked, and I don't have my CB&Q materials han= dy is to see if it covered, but was access to platforms 1 and 2, between tr= acks 2 and 3, done via the underpass that ran North / South under the track= s from the Depot itself on the south side off South Broadway, to the north = side of the tracks, and up stairs. Was there an underpass running under the= tracks, from this pedestrian underpass to the East on Clark street?

James

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