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Can you match them to the photo number? Dave From: CBQ@groups.io On Behalf Of Fred Crissey Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:47 PM To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs? Dave and others: I can fill in a few names. The Meyers is Fred Meyer who was General Agent = in the Traffic Dept. in Centralia, IL The Oslm is E. L. (Gene) Olson who was Division Freight Agent in Galesburg. If I knew that date of the photo I could tell you which jobs the Traffic De= pt. members had at the time. Fred Crissey On Friday, November 5, 2021, 10:37:49 AM CDT, Dave Lotz > wrote: Exactly!! The numbers on the name list were what Louis sent me without any= thing on the photo. The numbers/names on the list omit people in the back = two rows (only 29 names vs 39 men in the photo). I added the numbers on th= e photo to exactly match the names to the 39 men. It is indeed very confus= ing! From: CBQ@groups.io > On Behalf Of james miller Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 11:33 AM To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs? The numbers on the list do not match the photo numbers. =F0=9F=A4=94 On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:15 AM Dave Lotz > wrote: Jim, What exactly were you trying to communicate??? The numbers on the list that Louis provided are the confusing factor becaus= e they are all jumbled and do not match the number of men in the back two r= ows. That=E2=80=99s why I placed numbers on the image and was hoping to fi= nd folks who still remembered some of these men and could put the names wit= h the numbers on the photo. Dave From: CBQ@groups.io > On Behalf Of james miller Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 11:06 AM To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs? Damn auto correct......... On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:04 AM james miller via groups.io = > wrote: Dave, you dipped nbers in the list. On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 9:53 AM Dave Lotz > wrote: Hi All, In my haste to get help, I failed to mention that the numbers on the photo = were added by me and DO NOT correspond to the numbers for the notes from Lo= uis. I hope this helps ease the confusion. When identifying people, pleas= e associate the names with the number on the photo. Dave From: CBQ@groups.io > On Behalf Of HOL WAGNER Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 10:43 AM To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs? Dave: OK, I'm confused. There are 39 numbered people in the photo, but only 29 i= n the IDs. And the very few I know don't look like who they're identified = as. Hol _____ From: CBQ@groups.io > on behalf of Dave Lotz > Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 6:21 AM To: CBQ@groups.io >; BRHSlist@groups.io > Subject: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs? Hi All, This is for the old heads that worked on the Q. On the attached image, are= you able to match any of the following names from Louis to the folks and t= he numbers I=E2=80=99ve added to the photo? Those at the table I believe a= re good, it=E2=80=99s the standing folks we are having a difficult time wit= h as we know almost none of these folks. Dave Sitting At Table - Left To Right 1. M.F. Schwamburger - Supt. Of Rules 2. C.J. Miller - Supt. - Aurora (now we can positively ID Mr. Miller as bei= ng with the inspection Buick at Oregon) 3. Joe Turner - Retiring - Asst. Supt. - Centralia 4. Ross Van Ness - Supt. Of Safety - Omaha 5. I.G. Toland - Supt. - Hannibal 6. R.G. Johnson - General Manager - Chicago (ranking officer in attendance = - a sign of high respect for Mr. Turner) 7. ? Myers - Traffic Department - Centralia 8. Bud Ehrich - Traffic Department - Chicago Standing - Left To Right 1. Tobe Miller - Signal Supervisor - Galesburg 2. Behind No. 1, C.H. Bryant - probably Trainmaster - Galesburg 3. H.E. Pierce - To Assistant Supt. - Centralia (succeeding Mr. Turner) 4. Behind No. 3, Do Not Know 5. D. Stevens - Assistant Engineer Track - Galesburg 6. Behind No. 5, O.E. Stevens - probably assistant to general manager - Oma= ha 7. Cliff Shaw - Transportation Department - Galesburg 8. Behind No. 7, L.H. Dyer - Supt. - Galesburg 9. Next to No. 8 - Do Not Know 10. Behind No. 2 - Whitey Sorenson - Retired Lineman (hard to decipher Dad'= s handwriting for title) - Mendota 11. Behind No. 10 - Between No. 10 and 11 - Do Not Know 12. Behind No. 3 - Steve Kuzma - probably Asst. Master Mechanic - Galesburg 13. Between Nos. 12 and 14 - L.R. Hall - Engineer Of Track - Chicago 14. Between Nos. 3 and 4 - M.L. Zadnichek - Supt. - Chicago Here's where it gets a little confusing: 15. Back Row - Dick Chay - Probably Trainmaster - Galesburg 16. Art Hammond - Traffic Department - Chicago 17. Back Row Between Nos. 16 and 18 Front Row - Do Not Know 18. Front Row - Joe Grimes - Traffic Department - Chicago 19. Back Row Between Nos. 18 and 20 - Looks like D.M. Seeger - Asst. Trainm= aster, Ottumwa 20. First Row - Lowell Frick - Test Department - Aurora 21. Behind No. 20 - Do Not Know 22. Next to No. 20 - Kenny McGill - Assistant Engineer Track - Galesburg 23. Back Row Between Nos, 22 and 24 - Mike Blakley - General Car Foreman - = Cicero 24. Red Gibson - Master Mechanic - Galesburg 25. Back Row Between Nos. 24 and 25 - Ed Spomer - Asst. Supt. Car Shops - H= avelock 26. First Row - Do Not Know 27. Back Row Between Nos. 26-28 - Do Not Know 28. Olsm - Traffic Department - Galesburg 29. Back Row - Do Not Know _____ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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Fred,

 

Thanks!=C2=A0 Can you match them to the photo number= ?

 

Dave

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> <= b>On Behalf Of Fred Crissey
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12= :47 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help wi= th IDs?

 

Dave and others:

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I can fill in a few names.  The Meyers is Fred Meyer who = was General Agent in the Traffic Dept. in Centralia, IL  

The Oslm is E. L. (Gene) Olson who w= as Division Freight Agent in Galesburg.

If I knew that date of the photo I could tell you which jobs the= Traffic Dept. members had at the time.

Fred Crissey

=  

On Friday, November 5, 2021, 10:37:49 AM = CDT, Dave Lotz <dave_lotz@bel= lsouth.net> wrote:

 

 

Exactly!!  The numbers on t= he name list were what Louis sent me without anything on the photo.  T= he numbers/names on the list omit people in the back two rows (only 29 name= s vs 39 men in the photo).  I added the numbers on the photo to exactl= y match the names to the 39 men.  It is indeed very confusing!

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of james mill= er
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 11:33 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW= : Help with IDs?

 

The numbers on the list do not match the photo numbers. 🤔

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:15 AM Dave Lotz <<= a href=3D"mailto:Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net" target=3D"_blank">Dave_Lotz@bells= outh.net> wrote:

=

Jim,

 

What exactly were you trying to communicate???

 

The numbers on the l= ist that Louis provided are the confusing factor because they are all jumbl= ed and do not match the number of men in the back two rows.  That=E2= =80=99s why I placed numbers on the image and was hoping to find folks who = still remembered some of these men and could put the names with the numbers= on the photo.

 

Dave=

= From: = CBQ@groups.io <CB= Q@groups.io> On Behalf Of james miller
Sent: Friday= , November 5, 2021 11:06 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help w= ith IDs?

 

Damn auto correct.........

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:04 AM james miller via groups.io <jimbro67=3Dgmail.com@groups.io<= /a>> wrote:

Dave, you dipped nbers in the list.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, = 2021, 9:53 AM Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net> wrote:

<= /div>

Hi A= ll,

 

In my haste to = get help, I failed to mention that the numbers on the photo were added by m= e and DO NOT correspond to the numbers for the notes from Louis.  I ho= pe this helps ease the confusion.  When identifying people, please ass= ociate the names with the number on the photo.

 

Dave

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of HOL = WAGNER
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 10:43 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subj= ect: Re: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs?

 

Dave:  

 =

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:bla= ck'>OK, I'm confused.  There are 39 numbered people in the photo, but = only 29 in the IDs.  And the very few I know don't look like who they'= re identified as.

 

Hol

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net>Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 6:21 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>; BRHSlist@groups.io <BRHSlist@groups.io>=
Subject: [CBQ] FW: Help with IDs?

 

Hi  All,=

 

This is for the = old heads that worked on the Q.  On the attached image, are you able t= o match any of the following names from Louis to the folks and the numbers = I=E2=80=99ve added to the photo?  Those at the table I believe are goo= d, it=E2=80=99s the standing folks we are having a difficult time with as w= e know almost none of these folks.


Dave<= o:p>

 

Sitting At Table - Left To Righ= t

 

1. M.F. Schwamburger - Supt. Of Rules

2. C.J. Miller - Supt. - Aurora (now we can positiv= ely ID Mr. Miller as being with the inspection Buick at Oregon)

3. Joe Turner - Retiring - Asst. Supt. - Centra= lia

4. Ross Van Ness - Supt. Of Safe= ty - Omaha

5. I.G. Toland - Supt. - = Hannibal

6. R.G. Johnson - General M= anager - Chicago (ranking officer in attendance - a sign of high respect fo= r Mr. Turner)

7. ? Myers - Traffic D= epartment - Centralia

8. Bud Ehrich = - Traffic Department - Chicago

 = ;

Standing - Left To Right=

 =

1. Tobe Miller - Signal Supervisor - Galesburg

2. Behind No. 1, C.H. Bryant - probably Trainmaster - Ga= lesburg

3. H.E. Pierce - To Assistan= t Supt. - Centralia (succeeding Mr. Turner)=

4. Behind No. 3, Do Not Know

= 5. D. Stevens - Assistant Engineer Track - Galesburg

6. Behind No. 5, O.E. Stevens - probably assistant to gen= eral manager - Omaha

7. Cliff Shaw -= Transportation Department - Galesburg

<= p>8. Behind No. 7, L.H. Dyer - Supt. - Galesburg<= /span>

9. Next to No. 8 - Do Not Know

10. Behind No. 2 - Whitey Sorenson - Retired Lineman (hard to deci= pher Dad's handwriting for title) - Mendota=

11. Behind No. 10 - Between No. 10 and 11 - Do Not Know

12. Behind No. 3 - Steve Kuzma - probably Asst.= Master Mechanic - Galesburg

13. Bet= ween Nos. 12 and 14 - L.R. Hall - Engineer Of Track - Chicago=

14. Between Nos. 3 and 4 - M.L. Zadnichek - Supt.= - Chicago

 

Here's where it gets a little confusing:

 

15= . Back Row - Dick Chay - Probably Trainmaster - Galesburg

16. Art Hammond - Traffic Department - Chicago=

17. Back Row Between Nos. 16 and 18 Front = Row - Do Not Know

18. Front Row - Jo= e Grimes - Traffic Department - Chicago

=

19. Back Row Between Nos. 18 and 20 - Looks like D.M. Seeger - Asst. Tr= ainmaster, Ottumwa

20. First Row - L= owell Frick - Test Department - Aurora

<= p>21. Behind No. 20 - Do Not Know

2= 2. Next to No. 20 - Kenny McGill - Assistant Engineer Track - Galesburg

23. Back Row Between Nos, 22 and 24 - M= ike Blakley - General Car Foreman - Cicero<= /p>

24. Red Gibson - Master Mechanic - Galesburg

25. Back Row Between Nos. 24 and 25 - Ed Spomer - Asst. Sup= t. Car Shops - Havelock

26. First = Row - Do Not Know

27. Back Row Betwe= en Nos. 26-28 - Do Not Know

28. Olsm= - Traffic Department - Galesburg

29= . Back Row - Do Not Know

&nbs= p;

 

 

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