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Reminds me of a court case that was tried in Milwaukee where a man claimed that a North Shore train "veered into his lane" when they were on the bridge just south of the NSL terminal. Dave Lotz got his name into the TRAINS magazine news update: "Unlikely as a train-barge collision sounds, it does have a historical precedent. Burlington's Mark Twain Zephyr derailed after striking a barge near Keokuk, Iowa on Nov. 16, 1951, as reported in the book "Mark Twain Zephyr: History, Restoration and Rebirth," by Kandace and Robert Tabern with John Kelly and Dave Lotz. The prow of the barge had extended over the tracks. Less than a year later, on Aug. 19, 1951, the train narrowly avoided another such collision at almost the same spot, this time stopping short of the intruding barge." Charlie Vlk From: CBQ@groups.io On Behalf Of Ken Martin via groups.io Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 10:25 AM To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Train hits barge The Burlington Hawk-eye report on the wreck. Ken Martin https://www.yahoo.com/news/clean-efforts-underway-lee-county-214405404.html On Nov 15, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Ken Vandevoort > wrote: A train hit a barge tied to the shore in Montrose on the K-Line last Saturday night derailing two locomotives and overturning several coal cars. I have heard a story that the Mark Twain Zephyr once hit a barge somewhere on that line. It sounds like someone not too bright on the river will be responsible for this. Was this a frequent occurrence? Ken Vandevoort -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#62755): https://groups.io/g/CBQ/message/62755 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/87070806/703214 Group Owner: CBQ+owner@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/CBQ/leave/1544929/703214/691670059/xyzzy [archives@nauer.org] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01D7DA39.E61A6700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I suppose since the barge was at re= st before the collision technically the headlines are correct, but it is in= teresting that the BNSF statement is the only one that even hints that the = barge was the offending party.

Reminds me of= a court case that was tried in Milwaukee where a man claimed that a North = Shore train
“veered into his lane” when they were on the br= idge just south of the NSL terminal.

Dave Lo= tz got his name into the TRAINS magazine news update:

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“Unlikely as a train-barge collision sounds, it does= have a historical precedent. Burlington’s Mark Twain Zephyr derailed after str= iking a barge near Keokuk, Iowa on Nov. 16, 1951, as reported in the book &= #8220;Mark Twain Zephyr: History, Restoration and Rebirth,” by Kandac= e and Robert Tabern with John Kelly and Dave Lotz. The prow of the barge ha= d extended over the tracks. Less than a year later, on Aug. 19, 1951, the t= rain narrowly avoided another such collision at almost the same spot, this = time stopping short of the intruding barge.”

Charlie Vlk

 

 

= From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Ma= rtin via groups.io
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Train hits barge

 

The Burlington Hawk-eye report on the wreck.

 

Ken Martin

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https://www.yahoo.co= m/news/clean-efforts-underway-lee-county-214405404.html

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On Nov 15, 2021, at 7:00= AM, Ken Vandevoort <cou= ntrydepottrains@gmail.com> wrote:

 

A train hit a barge t= ied to the shore in Montrose on the K-Line last Saturday night derailing tw= o locomotives and overturning several coal cars.  I have heard a story= that the Mark Twain Zephyr once hit a barge somewhere on that line.  = It sounds like someone not too bright on the river will be responsible for = this.  Was this a frequent occurrence?

Ken Vandevoort

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