Return-Path: Delivered-To: unknown Received: from mailhost.usrp-ltd.com (10.45.0.93:110) by pegasus.nauer.org with POP3; 02 Jul 2021 01:55:01 -0000 Delivered-To: archives@nauer.org Received: (qmail 18308 invoked by uid 168); 1 Jul 2021 20:51:48 -0500 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from web01.groups.io by mailhost (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-2.10st (clamdscan: 0.99.2/26096. mhr: 1.0. spamassassin: 3.3.2. perlscan: 2.10st. Clear:RC:0(66.175.222.12):SA:0(-5.6/5.0):. Processed in 1.507611 secs); 02 Jul 2021 01:51:48 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: bounce+11863+62246+703214+1544929@groups.io via mailhost X-Qmail-Scanner: 2.10st (Clear:RC:0(66.175.222.12):SA:0(-5.6/5.0):. 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I speculated with Mik= e=E2=80=99s dad Marshall Skibbe that it might have something to do with the= events that caused the 4960 to show steam could go where diesels fear to t= read. Marshall got the routing correct that it involved the Rockford line. Charlie Vlk > On Jul 1, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Bob Campbell via groups.io wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > All - >=20 > Reason for the detour was due to the Mississippi River flooding at Savan= na in the late Spring, of 1965. Suspect this is a combined eastbound NCL = (#26), EB (#32) and the Morning TCZ (#22) that got on the CGW at Galena Jun= ction, IL (East Cabin, IL was IC) and most likely proceeded east on the CGW= to Holcomb, IL where they went through the interchange track, onto home ro= ad trackage of the11th Subdivision (Rockford branch). Nine miles south (TT= "east") they could return to the 3rd Subdivision (C&I) at Flag Center and = "resume" their regular stops at Rochelle, Aurora and Chicago. Only two reg= ular stops would have been "missed" with this detour; Savanna, IL and Orego= n, IL. Recall 4960 being used in April, 1965 to move trains through "subme= rged" trackage at Savanna (see Flickr file, for photo). > > Other flood detours went Flag Center - Rockford and then IC thru Galena,= Portage and East Cabin back to the Q. > > I spent the summer of 1965 as a vacation "relief" operator at the "tempo= rary" control point of East Winona, WI where the Alco rich Green Bay & West= ern crossed. > > Any photos of the Burlington detours passing thru the CGW's Winston Tunn= el, not far from Galena Junction? > > > Bob Campbell >=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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Thanks for the authoritative = answer to my question.  I speculated with Mike=E2=80=99s dad Marshall = Skibbe that it might have something to do with the events that caused the 4= 960 to show steam could go where diesels fear to tread.  Marshall got = the routing correct that it involved the Rockford line.  
Ch= arlie Vlk


On Jul 1, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Bob Campbell via groups.io <amtr= ak347=3Daol.com@groups.io> wrote:

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Reason for the detour was due to the Mississippi Riv= er flooding at Savanna in the late Spring, of 1965.   Suspect thi= s is a combined eastbound NCL (#26), EB (#32) and the Morning TCZ (#22) tha= t got on the CGW at Galena Junction, IL (East Cabin, IL was IC) and most li= kely proceeded east on the CGW to Holcomb, IL where they went through the i= nterchange track, onto home road trackage of the11th Subdivision (Rockford = branch).  Nine miles south (TT "east") they could return to the 3rd Su= bdivision (C&I) at Flag Center and "resume" their regular stops at Roch= elle, Aurora and Chicago.  Only two regular stops would have been "mis= sed" with this detour; Savanna, IL and Oregon, IL.  Recall 4960 being = used in April, 1965 to move trains through "submerged" trackage at Savanna = (see Flickr file, for photo).
 
Other flood detours went Flag Center - Rockford and = then IC thru Galena, Portage and East Cabin back to the Q.
 
I spent the summer of 1965 as a vacation "relief" op= erator at the "temporary" control point of East Winona, WI where the Alco r= ich Green Bay & Western crossed.
 
Any photos of the Burlington detours passing thru th= e CGW's Winston Tunnel, not far from Galena Junction?
 
 
Bob Campbell
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