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 Tom:I agree that the train were from Colstrip MT.=C2=A0 IIRC Detroit Ediso=
n had some "test burns" of PRB coal at one or two of their Detroit area gen=
erating stations which were all rail moves.=C2=A0 Obviously it worked but r=
egular movement was/is by water from Superior WI.=C2=A0 I understand the cu=
rrent volume (11/1/20) is about 15-20 loaded trains per week.Fred Crissey
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 02:35:03 PM CST, Michael Woodruff <mwoodr=
uff54@gmail.com> wrote:
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 No idea Tom, and the more I read about Colstrip, the more I think my gues=
s is probably wrong.=C2=A0 If you believe Wikipedia, it sounds like Colstri=
p was more or less shut down from 1958 to 1970 or so.=C2=A0 Since the Orin =
line construction didn't start until 1972, perhaps that train loaded at Wyo=
dak near Gillette, although in that case, you would think the train would h=
ave come east via Alliance and Lincoln.=C2=A0 Not sure if Kleenburn (on the=
 Big Horn sub west of Sheridan) was still active then or not.=C2=A0 And I d=
on't know when the Dutch sub to the Tongue River/Decker area mines was buil=
t, although I'm pretty sure it was much later.=C2=A0 Also not sure if there=
 were any coal mines located on the Great Northern in Montana that were pro=
ducing at that time.=C2=A0 There were several in the Great Falls area, alth=
ough I think they were active much earlier.
mswaz
On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 12:18 PM Tom Mack via groups.io <thommack=3Dyahoo.c=
om@groups.io> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 12:38 PM, Michael Woodruff wrote:

Colstrip, MT on the NP would be my guess as to where that train was loaded=
.
Any idea, Michael, when that mine started running coal trains from it over=
 the Q?
=C2=A0
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Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH


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I agree that the train were from Colstrip MT.&nbsp; IIRC Detroit Edison had=
 some "test burns" of PRB coal at one or two of their Detroit area generati=
ng stations which were all rail moves.&nbsp; Obviously it worked but regula=
r movement was/is by water from Superior WI.&nbsp; I understand the current=
 volume (11/1/20) is about 15-20 loaded trains per week.</div><div dir=3D"l=
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                    On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 02:35:03 PM CST, Michael =
Woodruff &lt;mwoodruff54@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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f;">No idea Tom, and the more I read about Colstrip, the more I think my gu=
ess is probably wrong.&nbsp; If you believe Wikipedia, it sounds like Colst=
rip was more or less shut down from 1958 to 1970 or so.&nbsp; Since the Ori=
n line construction didn't start until 1972, perhaps that train loaded at W=
yodak near Gillette, although in that case, you would think the train would=
 have come east via Alliance and Lincoln.&nbsp; Not sure if Kleenburn (on t=
he Big Horn sub west of Sheridan) was still active then or not.&nbsp; And I=
 don't know when the Dutch sub to the Tongue River/Decker area mines was bu=
ilt, although I'm pretty sure it was much later.&nbsp; Also not sure if the=
re were any coal mines located on the Great Northern in Montana that were p=
roducing at that time.&nbsp; There were several in the Great Falls area, al=
though I think they were active much earlier.</div><div class=3D"yiv6528290=
136gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;"><br clear=3D"no=
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dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 12:18 PM Tom Mack via <a rel=3D"nofollow=
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&lt;thommack=3D<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:yahoo.c=
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v6528290136gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 12:38 PM, M=
ichael Woodruff wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote>Colstrip, MT on the NP would be my guess as to where that trai=
n was loaded.</blockquote>
Any idea, Michael, when that mine started running coal trains from it over=
 the Q?<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">-- <br clear=3D"none">To=
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