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Greetings Hol. I am back on the hunt for a better understanding of Taking Water on the Joint Line. Of the images you gave me. Many, many thanks. #909 seesm to be at Larkspur as does the image of #901. The crane seems to be an "Otto" crane. Larkspur seem to allow the crews plenty of space to fill the tank and an easy grade to restart a heavy train. #904 heaing south, clearly is at the DRGW water tank. Johne Tudeck believes all DRGW water cranes on the Joint Line were either "Sterling" or "US" made. No "Poage" or "Otto" cranes. I have suggested to Robert Walz that he consider completing his treatise on the ATSF Locomotive Facilities of the eastern portion of the Western Grande Division. We will wait and see. Have a great week. Mark
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 01:28:37 am ACDT, HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com> wrote:
Mark:
Here are three shots of C&S 900s taking water on the Joint Line: one each direction at Palmer
Lake and one northbound at Larkspur.
Hol
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of sellarsmark_aus via groups.io <sellarsmark_aus=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 6:20 PM To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Taking Water on The Joint Line Greetings Jim,
Thanks for the suggestions.
Of course steam locos on the Joint Line had access to AT&SF, C&S (Denver) and D&RGW water.
Any date on the photo. The RS3 cut in between the FTs provides some broad clue.
Ross Grenard in the "C&S, A Personal Memory of the Standard Gague,"- Andover (1987) suggests three water stops were made by the C&S 2-10-2s from Denver to the divide.
Some locations were probably more convenient for the crews than others. ??
Mark
On Monday, 2 January 2023 at 10:53:40 am ACDT, James Sandrin <sandmantrains@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is a partial answer from minimal photo evidence. Since Palmer lake was created as a source of water for locomotives, obviously water facilities were established there (see attached Paul Garde photo). According to Robert Waltz' "The Joint
Line: 1880-1995", Santa Fe had water facilities at: Pueblo, Pinon, Fountain, Colorado Springs, Pring, Larkspur, Sedalia and Struby (near modern day Englewood-Littleton), and Rice Yard (C&S terminal in Denver). The Rio Grande had tanks at Pueblo, Pinon, Fountain,
Colorado Springs, Palmer Lake, Castle Rock, Louviers and Burnham (Denver). Most of these facilities remained in service until the retirement of steam in the mid-1950s. As to actual operations and use of said tanks, Joint line time tables or special instructions
for the period in question would probably provide some insights. Jim Sandrin
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