Re: [CBQ] Photo: CB&Q Livestock Car 58587D

["ted schnepf" <railsunlimited2@gmail.com>]

Hello Bill and list,
I would like to address the second part of Bills comment, about the CBQ only serving Denver stockyards directly.
I believe in Chicago that Burlington trains would directly deliver their loaded stock cars to the union stockyard.
I know Milwaukee road stock trains did run directly into the Chicago Union stockyards. I would imagine there was some trackage rights arrangement that allowed the trains to directly deliver loaded stock to the yards. I would assume all of the other Chicago railroads could also deliver their stock directly to the yards.
I have dispatcher sheets that show Sunday afternoons with many stock trains coming into Chicago on the Milwaukee road and then with a mainline crew change in bensenville running directly into the Chicago Union stock yards.
While the main line railroads delivered their stock trains directly to the stockyards, the local terminal railroad may have switched the stock cars to the unloading ramps.
I would assume there were other arrangements in places like Sioux City, Omaha and Kansas City stockyards for other direct delivery of stock trains.
Ted

Ted Schnepf

Elgin, Illinois

847-697-5353

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 10:56 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Bill Hirt commented on the Real Steam Era Freight Car Discussion group:

"Andrews trucks were reused under new PRR open hoppers built in 1961. These cars continued into the PC merger.

The CB&Q used Andrews sideframes to replace soon to be banned Arch Bar trucks circa 1938 on a number of cars according to CB&Q car diagrams. The advantage being that the Andrews side frames could use the Arch Bar truck's journal boxes.  The cars that received these changes kept them until retirement.

Of the major middle of the country stockyards, the CB&Q only served the Denver Union stockyards directly. The rest of the major stockyards required interchange. So a CB&Q stock car was allowed in interchange with these Andrews trucks past the end of this list's date."

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

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