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Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:24:52 +0000 (UTC)
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Greetings,

Excuse my ignorance but wht is a Form 1645?

Mark

On Saturday, 16 April 2022, 09:35:59 am ACST, Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


They would be shown on a wheel report as left at the station. Yes, The waybill would be left at whatever agency was responsible for where the car was set out.

Leo Phillipp

On Apr 15, 2022, at 6:04 PM, sellarsmark_aus via groups.io <sellarsmark_aus=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Greetings everyone,

Were bad order car(s) set outs treated as if the car(s) was/were spotted in the depots yard?
That is was/were the relevant waybill(s) left with the agent?

Mark

On Saturday, 16 April 2022, 07:56:32 am ACST, Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


To add to Pete’s excellent description…. Later as things began to be computerized a bit by the Q (mid to late 60s) the Condr received a printed wheel report of cars in his train with info. about L/E, destination station, industry. He may or may not get waybills to go with the cars depending on whether there were agents at the stations being served, a mobile agent, or not, if there were not and the job was a turnaround returning to the same initial terminal. You could still receive a switch list, piece of stationary or something from the agent as to what was to be done at his station or stations with cars on hand.

By BN SPINS days all the Condr. On the local received was the wheel report with the destination customer info. But again if there were on line agents then the bills went with the cars. Here again you could still be handed a piece of paper by the agent or with your trains orders that at……. p/u ABCX or respot this or that,etc.

Surprisingly on through trains all the trains waybills went with the wheel report to the Conductor. Then if there were in route set outs on the trip the bills were wrapped up in a copy of the wheel report and tossed off to the agent or OP at that station. There’s a whole story in itself as to what that involved with some colorful stories. Stay tuned for those in an upcoming BRHS article about Congress Park that is now in the queue for publication. 

Leo Phillipp
Ps- yard jobs had a totally different way of handling which car goes where. 

On Apr 15, 2022, at 4:13 PM, jpslhedgpeth via groups.io <jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Things may be different now, but "back in the day" here's how it worked.   Let's assume that the "local" leaves it's IT  (Initial terminal)

The conductor has his waybills in a big pile..hopeflully in "'train order"   He will make up his "consist"  ie a list of cars by "Initial and number" that are in his train.  The top of the list is the "rear end"  From this "consist" he knows what work is to be done at each station.

When he gets to his first stop he gets a "switch list" from the agent.  Said list shows what cars are where in his yard and what is to be done with these cars...ie  spotted to a different business, mty...taken with the train or whatever the case may be.

When the train arrives at each station  the Con gets the list from the agent.  Gives the list to his rear brakeman...goes into the depot and sits down to visit with the agent while the two brakeman do the "Station Switching.  ie   Setting out and spotting the cars the local brought in..picking up the cars that are mty or  loaded as the case may be to be taken with the train.

The brakemen get the train together.  The conductor has the bills for the cars he is taking and has left the bills for the cars he left at tlhe station.

As the train approaches the terminal the conductor makes up a train list of what cars are in his train and where they go.  He takes it into the OP or whoever is in charge and that's it.

Pete




-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Herrick <rdherrick@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, Apr 15, 2022 12:48 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Switch Lists

There is a point of confusion I have about switch lists, which I'm hoping someone can clarify for me. I have read that conductors are handed a list when leaving the yard for local work on the cars in the train and where they are to be spotted at each town and I have also read that conductors were handed a switch list at each town by the agent/operator of cars to be switched. I've long looked at Form 1645 in Bernie's book and wondered which it is.

Bob Herrick

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