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Re: [CBQ] Burlington Structure Paint Color Question

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burlington Structure Paint Color Question
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 03:14:22 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Burlington Structure Paint Color Question

Thanks, Al. I have Zephyr No. 47, but as you say, that’s good through 1941. It’s too bad more color photos aren’t available for the early 1950’s. I’ll make another pass through the color books I have to see if I can find more information on 1953, especially for the signals, signal bridges, and fuel cranes.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Kamm
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 9:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burlington Structure Paint Color Question

 

Nelson -

 

Zephyr No. 47 contained a copy of CB&Q Drawing No. 67700 3/8 Standard Color Schedule for Painting Structures.  This was released in 1930 and updated in 1936.  Included in the Zephyr are copies of letters dated 1941 indicating that this color schedule was still in effect.  This schedule shows water columns (cranes in the schedule) as black and both wood and steel water tanks as mineral red.  Signal bridges are not mentioned specifically but since most steel structures in the schedule are mineral red, that was probably what the signal bridges were painted.  Steel coal chutes were painted black, wood chutes were "standard cement tar paint" which I would think would be black.

 

Not sure specifically when this standard changed but I think 1959 is a good cutoff when the Chinese Red on rolling stock started being used.  Of course, some things never got repainted as Zephyr 47 includes numerous examples of structures not repainted in the 1970's.

 

If you do not have a copy of Zephyr No. 47 I believe they are still available through the company store.

 

Regards,

 

Al Kamm

 

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 8:36:31 PM CDT, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

I just watched a video of Jerry Lundeen’s CB&Q layout, and I noticed that the signal bridges, water tanks, and water columns were painted CB&Q mineral red. I know mineral red was the standard MOW and structure color in 1953. However the only color photos I have of Burlington, IA signal towers  show silver paint, same as fuel cranes. Water columns were black, as were dwarf signals in the yard. The water tank near the depot was white and the water tower near the roundhouse was mineral red, as was the turntable bridge and the sand tower. Were signal bridges and water columns ever painted mineral red, and if so, when did they switch to silver for signal bridges and black for water columns? The diesel fuel tanks near the white water tower appear light colored in black and white photos, but I don’t know if they were white or silver. The coal pocket appears dark in black and white photos, but I don’t know if it was painted mineral red or black before it got a thick coat of coal dust.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 


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