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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:02:55 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Surviving E5 items of interest
Louis:

There were a number of periods in the late '50s and early-mid-'60s when units were cut off/added at Trinidad due to the addition/removal of a dining car at that point.  Odd to think of one heavyweight car making enough difference that another unit was required, but by then there were regular efforts to power the trains with a single unit when possible.

When the last trains came off in 1967 and the E5s were briefly used in freight service, it was strictly over the Joint Line between Denver and Pueblo, never any farther south..  And that service lasted only  a few months from October 1967 into early 1968, by which time most of the E5s' traction motors had been burned up.  I got out of the Army on Feb. 9, 1968, just in time to photograph the last of this ill-fated attempt to get a few more miles out of the units before trading them in.  BN repeated the "experiment" during 1970 with 1945 E7's (including the former GN units) between Lincoln and Council Bluffs and had somewhat better luck because there were no steep grades between those points.  Still, a lot of traction motors were burned up.

Hol


From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Surviving E5 items of interest
 
July 17, 2019

Hol - Appreciate your further ID'ing the photo.  What would a lone B unit be doing sitting at Trinidad?  Didn't the E5s run straight through in passenger service from Dallas to Denver and return?

Or, since you date the image to the mid-1960s, could've this B unit been working out its last miles in freight service before being traded-in?  Best Regards - Louis

Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL

In a message dated 7/17/2019 1:20:53 PM Central Standard Time, holpennywagner@msn.com writes:

Louis:

Thanks!  That's the Trinidad depot in the right background and the view undoubtedly dates to the mid-1960s.

Hol



From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Surviving E5 items of interest

July 16, 2019

Hol and Mike - I've attached a nice image of FW&D 9980B Silver Warrior.  The date and location are unknown.  Glad the plates have survived in your collections.  Too bad this motor wasn't also preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum to mate with the 9911A. Best Regards - Louis

Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL

In a message dated 7/15/2019 7:38:56 PM Central Standard Time, holpennywagner@msn.com writes:

Mike:

And my E5 plate is the other one from 9980B.  I removed both it and the builder's plate, with permission from the Denver master mechanic, while the unit was stored here awaiting trade-in.

Hol



From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Mike <mjrrstuff@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Surviving E5 items of interest

Louis & Hol:

The E5 plate on the left in my photo is from the 9980B. I know this because it's marked on the back, and I acquired it around the same time I got the other builders plate from this locomotive...I guess that plate would be the mate to yours, Hol. The second E5 plate pictured, I can't say with 100% certainty. If I were to guess, I'd say the 9914B, because I acquired it in a small collection of plates that also included a builders plate from the 9914B.

I also have a builders plate from the 9980A which I display as a set with the 9980B.

Mike


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