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Re: [CBQ] Possible fake on EBAY

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:38:51 -0600
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Also on the B, the lower loop is taller than the upper.  The plate from the CZ car shows the opposite 


On Jan 11, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:

I note that it should not have mounting holes but other comments stand.  If the metal is original it has been stripped and repainted ruining any value to the "artifact".
Charlie Vlk




On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:44 AM -0600, "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:

The problem i would have with it is the lack of mounting holes, and no apparent wear.  
I would agree that the lettering looks odd as well. 
It would have to be a ownership plate from a CZ car; looks wrong for a 70 year old artifact.
Charlie Vlk




On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 9:59 AM -0600, "Charley Hill" <chill4@neb.rr.com> wrote:

Having worked as a trainman on those cars, and seeing the sign, I would agree that that is not Burlington lettering. Note the “B” on CB&Q; the B letter is fatter on the right hand side of it. The Q Zephyr lettering has always been narrow.  The “Q” is also way too fat also. There’s always the possibility that towards the demise of the passenger cars, that during maintenance someone replaced the sign using a stencil not quite Q lettering. But in my time working with those cars I have never seen that kind of lettering.

 

From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray Bedard
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 9:39 AM
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Subject: [CBQ] Possible fake on EBAY

 

There is a listing on ebay for a "CB&Q" stainless steel passenger car sign, stated as an original from one of the stainless steel passenger cars.

 

Looking at the lettering, and comparing it to all the photos I have, including in all the books on the Q, the lettering style is different. 

 

The letter "B" is "fatter", and the "&" is designed differently. All the letters appears to be too "fat" when compared with photos of actual cars.

 

The seller also includes a photo of one of the cars, which clearly shows the difference between an original and what he/she is selling.

 

Did the Q use the style of lettering as noted in the item being sold? I'm not saying that it is a fake, or that the seller knowingly is selling a fake, but it doesn't look right to me. 

 

RAY Bedard

San Jose CA

 

Here is a link to the item:

 

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