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Re: [CBQ] Question about C&S box car paint & lettering

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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:14:26 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Question about C&S box car paint & lettering

The Denver weight date of 2-61 and the presence of a Scotchlite herald on this car would normally be sure indicators that it was repainted Chinese red on the Denver rip track in early 1961.  The Denver rip track continued to use Roman stenciling and firmly believed in simplifying the Q paint scheme when repainting cars.  But note that the load limit and light weight stenciling seem to show only the first three numerals of each figure repainted, and the car still wears its "BUILT 7-57" stenciling on the right side, meaning the 1513 still wears its original Havelock mineral red paint.  So it appears that for some reason the car's original painted herald was replaced, but the use of the Scotchlite herald is unusual, as most of the Denver rip track's repaints featured the previously standard white Burlington Route herald, but with the black background that the Q dropped in the 1940s.  Presumably at the same time the car was reweighed and the Scotchlite herald applied,, rectangular white Scotchlite "delineators" were also applied to the side sills, and two of the three on the right-hand side have already peeled or chipped nearly completely off, probably because of the cold weather in which they were applied, outside.  That's another reason the car is not Chinese red; repainting was simply not done during the winter months on the Denver rip track, which of course was outside with no protection from the elements.  Here's a larger copy of the 1513 photo that clearly shows the car's stenciling.


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From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:43 PM
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Subject: [CBQ] Question about C&S box car paint & lettering
 

http://www.protocraft.com/images/542.jpg



The Protocraft web site says this car ^ is painted Chinese Red color. But
I have images of two C&S box cars #1027 and #1134 that are painted in a
simplified box car red scheme with a plain white Burlington Route stencil
herald and no slogans, and I also have an image of C&S #1162 in the more
conventional Chinese Red paint scheme with the Everywhere West slogan and
the large billboard BURLINGTON to the left of the door.

Can anyone confirm the paint color applied to #1513?

Thanks!

Tim O'Connor




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