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Re: [CBQ] Re: SSW F7A 969

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: SSW F7A 969
From: "Don Brown dbrown02@rochester.rr.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 04:44:53 -0500
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Rules varied on the handling of dead units and I have no idea what was required on the Q.  I do find it slightly odd it was part of the consist but apparently they had to do so.

Since the unit was shipped from SSW with a known "terminal illness" which would preclude its use as power, one might expect it to be set up dead, or as Bob says, as a boxcar.  The difference, for those wondering, was that when set up dead, the brakes would function when the automatic brake was used, but not when the independent (locomotive) brakes were used.  This would, among other things, allow it to be other than at the front of the train. (here too rules varied, dead units were often restricted to within the first 5 or 10 cars or so but not necessarily on the head pin). 

By setting the unit up for trail, though, it would have to be taken to the engine house along with the train's power, or else mechanical department guys would have to come out to re-connect it - again depending on local operations and union rules.  Physically it was not a big deal but naturally a fireman would not do it if it was considered mechanic's work at that location.  Obviously the same power did not pull the train from the SSW shop all the way to and across the Q so the way it was being handled would have involved extra work and PITA along the way.

As a side note and non-CBQ, I was once involved with the purchase of a GP-9 which had been stored for some time.  The unit had no traction motors nor batteries and was strictly non-functional.  It moved over 3 railroads to get to its destination.  That unit, too, must have been set up as part of the consist at some point, because when it arrived we found the fuel gauge reading full.  When whatever was pulling it went to the engine facility for fuel, they must have gone right down the line and fueled up the previously empty Geep, at no charge to us!

DRB


On 1/7/2018 2:14 AM, Bob Campbell amtrak347@aol.com [CBQ] wrote:
 
Tom -

In the comments below each photo, Ed Cooper got it correct - the train is eastbound, departing off the "Running Track" at the east end of the East Yard, Eola, heading for Clyde.  I suspect the F7 went all the way in to Clyde RH due to the elimination of firemen in freight service as a result of Board Award 282 in 1964.  If the head brakeman broke the MU connections properly between the 982 and the SSW 969 at Congress Park, he would be entitled to a day's pay for assuming "fireman's" work.  The Congo would have brought the F7 back to Congress Park later that day (maybe).

Chuck Zeiler got the direction wrong in his caption and his second photo clearly shows the stack for Reber Packing Company which was on the north side of the mains and just west of Eola Road.  In both photos, the track in the foreground is the EJ&E transfer where the "J" would pick-up transfers from the "Q".

Judging by all the oil on the carbody, fuel tank and L2 brake cylinder (which are Federal defects), I'm reasonably certain the 969's prime mover is no longer functioning, even though the air has been MU'ed with the rest of the consist (perfectly normal-no need to "boxcar" the F7).  My two cents worth.

Bob



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