April 1, 2015
Hol - Thanks for commenting on the date of the Denver image. I will change
my copy to 1937 as you suggested. As for the Delta B trailing truck being
changed out, yes indeed, that is very ODD. I have no explanation. The Delta B
trailing truck was considered superior to the original Rushton trailing
truck, so why it would be changed out is a real mystery to me and is probably
lost to time by this late date. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 3/30/2015 8:01:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Louis: The date of the shot of 2952 in Denver cannot
be 1927, as at that time the engine was still a coal-burner; more likely it's
1937 after conversion to oil in early 1937 for use on the Casper Division
and trains 29-30 down to Denver, where the photo was taken at the C&S
Seventh Street facilities, coupled to a Santa Fe Pacific (though the engine
was briefly assigned to Lincoln after its conversion. But
here's something really strange about 2952: an Otto Perry
photo of it on a passenger train out of Omaha in September 1929 ( http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/46009/rec/2)
shows it still as a coal-burner but with a Delta type B cast steel trailing
truck. Additional Perry photos of it in 1938 ( http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/42902/rec/1)
show it now as an oil-burner and once again with the Rushton trailing
truck with which it was built. Never heard of a Delta B being removed
after it was applied. Strange. Hol
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015
14:18:45 -0400 Subject: [CBQ] Elesco Equipped S-3 [2
Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from
LZadnichek@aol.com included below]
March 30,
2015
Mike and Ken - I thought I didn't have any images of an Elesco feed
water heater equipped Class S-3 4-6-2 type locomotive, but I do have one. I'm
attaching an image of oil burning No. 2957 taken at Denver, CO, in 1927.
According to the Corbin book, 2957 was built by Baldwin in 1915 and was sold
for scrap in December 1951. That's a Santa Fe locomotive that it's coupled to
at the engine servicing area. For comparison, I'm also attaching an image of
Worthington feed water heater equipped Class S-3 No. 2958 taken in 1940 at an
unknown location. The Cordin book reports the coal burning 2958 was also built
by Baldwin in 1915, but survived two years longer being sold for
scrap in October 1953. Whether Elesco or Worthington equipped,
the Class S-3's were handsome and powerful Q passenger locomotives. Best
Regards - Louis
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March 26, 2015
Mike and Ken - The FW&D 550 series Pacifics could also be found
powering freight trains near the end of their long service careers. The
attached image shows No. 556 with a freight at Irving, TX, in 1951.
Unfortunately, I do not have any broadside images of the engineer's and
fireman's sides to use for kitbashing or modeling purposes. Perhaps, another
Group member does. I do not have my copy of Hol's "Colorado Road"
book handy, but, according to the Corbin book, No. 556 and its sister No.
557 were both constructed by Baldwin in 1922 to Q Class S-3 specifications and
were the last two Pacific types acquired by the Colorado Road. Also, whereas
both Nos. 556 and 557 were equipped with Elesco feed water heaters giving them
the heavy "beetle brow" look, I can't recall seeing an image of a Q Class S-3
equipped with anything but a Worthington feed water heater, although the
Corbin book indicates some did have Elescos. I'm not a modeler, but agree with
you both that the Q Class S-3 Pacific type would be a good subject for some
company to produce as a scale model. They were a fine looking and, by all
accounts, a well designed steam passenger locomotive up until
dieselization forever silenced their whistles and exhausts. Best Regards -
Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 3/26/2015 12:44:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Thank
you Ken. I remember seeing those in/around Dallas in the 40s and 50s I
think. The smoke box "face" is unforgettable for a small boy who loved
trains and usually saw them up close waiting to the T&P Eagle bringing
my grandmother back from Jefferson. Her father had been the T&P station
agent in Marshall until he died in 1920.
I could do with a "close to"
model, but if it didn't have that characteristic smoke box front it just
wouldn't work.
Mike Thomasson
Austin
---- "Kenneth Martin
kmartin537@surewest.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
According to Hol's "Colorado Road" FW&D 551-555 were built to the Q S-3
design. These have not been done. The only Q pacific modeled was a LMB
S-2.
>
> According to the book before the S-3 copies were
authorized the USRA authorized five USRA light pacifics. That was
rescinded and the S-3 copies were authorized. So I suppose you could use a
USRA light pacific as a what if.
>
> Ken Martin
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:01 PM,
mthomasson@austin.rr.com [CBQ] wrote:
>
> > Was this class
of locomotives ever offered for sale in HO, brass or otherwise?
> >
> >
> > Mike Thomasson
> > Austin,
Texas
>
> > ---- "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]"
<CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >> March 23, 2015
>
>>
> >> Group - To give those members who are not all
that familiar with Q subsid
> >> iary FW&D and its
Texas Zephyr, I've attached an image of a 550 series FW&D
>
>> 4-6-2 type powering the train at Fort Worth, TX, in 1953.
>
>>
> >> Louis Zadnichek II
> >> Fairhope,
AL
> >
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