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Re: [CBQ] Re: BN 972544 Lineage

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From: "Kenneth Middleton" <krmiddle@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:46:39 -0500
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By the time Norm and I learned of the existence of the Change Number Record Accounts, they had all been moved to what was then BN headquarters in St. Paul, where they were held by a department called Valuation Engineering. I did see the Burlington volumes but never spent any time with them as Norm and I were concentrating on the GN records -- I don't remember how many Burlington books there were. The books were broken down by account number, which I believe was probably mandated by the ICC. Account 51 was for steam locomotives, but by the time we were there these records had been moved to a book called the "Drop Number Record Account," along with some freight car numbers that had not been used for many years. Unfortunately, this book disappeared from basement storage at BN in the late 1980's. Norm did manage to transcribe the steam locomotive information. Account 53 was freight equipment and I believe there were three volumes for that. As I remember, each of the volumes were approximately 2 or 3 inches thick. The pages were 11" x 17" in size and there were four columns across the page, each headed by the word "CHANGED." Then the subheadings were "From," "Date," "Auth.," "To," "Date," and "Auth." The "Auth." was the number of the Authority for Expenditure under which the change was made. There were 50 numbers per page, so the pages alternated listing numbers 0-49 and 50-99. This was all pre-printed and then the first part of the number and all of the entries were completed by hand.
 
Volume 54 contained passenger equipment, and I believe was only one book. Volume 57 contained maintenance equipment and was also only one book. If I remember correctly, the diesel and electric locomotives were in Account 52 ("Other Locomotives") and this was all in one book. As I mentioned, Norm did transcribe the steam locomotive information and between the two of us we transcribed the passenger car information and part of the maintenance information. I finally (after several week-long episodes of severe writer's cramp) asked my contact at BN if we could bring a photocopier in, and he agreed. I purchased a small portable Canon photocopier and my wife and I then photocopied the remainder of the maintenance book and all of the freight pages.
 
There were also Burlington Northern volumes, and Norm spent a fair amount of time transcribing information from them (that's where the information about the renumbering of 972544 from X1575 came from). I do not remember how many BN volumes there were. About 1985, BN computerized their change number record account information, and stopped entering information into the books. Norm and I were primarily following diesel locomotive, passenger and maintenance equipment, but once I had the photocopier and was there I thought I might as well copy the freight information as well. Once we had the photocopier the normal routine when we went to St.Paul was for my wife to run the photocopier while I went through the computer records.
 
To the best of my knowledge the only transcriptions or photocopies of the books are the ones that I have. I do not know if anyone ever copied the Burlington books or not. If Randy Danniel reads this he might know -- Joe Douda may have obtained some of his information from them.
 
At any rate, with the BNSF merger, the books in St.Paul (GN, CB&Q, NP and BN) were moved to Topeka, Kansas, and turned over to Fred Elevier, whose title was Assistant Property Engineer -- Property Accounting. I do not know if the books still exist, or if they became obsolete once the ICC was ended.
 
Ken Middleton
Portage, MI
krmiddle@charter.net
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:17 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: BN 972544 Lineage

 

KM-

Outstanding! Thank you very, very much for transcribing all that and posting it! More than I wanted to know, but very glad I now know it.

Regarding your comment:

Norm Keyes found in the BN Change Number Record Accounts back in 1985

Just how big a document is that? Has it ever been transcribed or digitized and posted to the Web? If so, where? If not, can I buy a photocopy from anyone who might have it?

RSVP
John Phillips
Seattle

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