John Mitchell
Send me your USPS address and I'll mail you a copy of a newspaper piece regarding the proper pronunciation of CAIRO.
Pete
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From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
There wasn't any station work or mail transfer at Herrin Junction. Train 12 stopped long enough for the roundhouse men to put ice and drinking water on the PMC. To my knowledge, the only motor car body on the ground, on the Beardstown Division, was at Beardstown. The yard office at Herrin Junction was an open platform dining car (page 45 of BB#35). I used to jump off and go to the roundhouse while #12 went into Herrin. I would get back on #11 when they stopped at the wye switch. Those are some good memories. I can remember walking though and looking at all those O-1A's (all hot).
--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com> wrote:
From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 7:12 PM
John
Would the old dining car be where the motorcar would do its station work?? I've got a couple of pictures of the mail messenger working the mail and you can see what I recall was a motorcar body, but maybe it was the dining car..If I ever get my pictures sorted out I'll know for sure.
I think in one of Mike Spoor's books it had a color photo of that mail transfer operation looking exactly as I recall it...Of course you could go there any day and see exactly the same thing..
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. < cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ < CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
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There was a huge "gob pile" between the gob track (which was actually two tracks) and the old dining car that served as a yard office. The pile was made of refuse from Mine "B", Valier Mine and several other mines in the area.
From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 10:14 AM
John...Was the "Gob track" near the "depot" at HJ...Seems like I remember a kind of strip mine atmosphere around that location when we made a trip via Motor Car from Shattuc to HJ and return in Jan 1956???
Pete
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From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. < cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ < CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
I didn't know about any company refuse going to strip mines but I guess it did. I thought all of the company refuse(at least from Lines East) went to the gob track at Herrin Junction, until 1970, which of course was an old abandoned underground mine. I know a lot of that came in mill gons. In later years, a big part was used foundry sand from Caterpillar. I have a letter from the traffic department complaining that the railroad was losing money on hauling it to Herrin Junction for disposal, but that they felt they had to do it to keep Cat's business! I learn something new everyday.
--- On Wed, 2/20/13, STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 10:42 PM
The load of Company Coal that was unloaded around the stockyards at Montgomery in 1967 was in a 55 or 65 foot mill gon. That is also what we used for the loads out of there to the strip mines where all the company refuse went.
Steve in SC
From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 20, 2013 2:40:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
Most of the remaining gons were in company coal service. The coal company shippers almost always ordered 55 ton hoppers for coal yards and other retail dealers. Retail dealers didn't like to hand shovel the coal that didn't dump out the doors. This was several tons. Places that unloaded with a clamshell liked the gons, also. These were mostly industrial companies.
--- On Wed, 2/20/13, qutlx1@aol.com <qutlx1@aol.com> wrote:
From: qutlx1@aol.com <qutlx1@aol.com>
Subject: [CBQ] Fwd: Inbound cars for Lee center
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 12:24 PM
Mark,
I missed answering one of your questions. By the 50s the composite gons were pretty much retired. There were some but not many. So coal would have been in the 50 ton hoppers and maybe a 70 but those newer hoppers were probably in utlility and industry coal.
Leo
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