Bill,
I second Charlie's comment with even more exclamation points - superb
picture!!!!!! If this is the kind of stuff you've had hidden away and been
meaning to scan, MORE!!
I mean, man, look at the beautiful composition on that shot, right down to the
kids on the bikes watching the train. That's "Classic Trains" material if ever
I saw one. Wow.
Larry Sallee
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@...> wrote:
>
> Bill-
>
> What a super photo!!!
>
> I don't think it is the first complete train of Budd non articulated cars;
> that would be the Silver Streak Zephyr as built..but it might be the first
> assemblage of pre-war Budd cars with a diner, etc.. into a full train
> outside of the 9909. It looks like it was 12 cars or longer..must have
> taken quite an effort to gather all the pool cars for the special!
> By way of clarification, the truck skirt did not hide a carbody skirt; they
> were on the same level as the carbody skirts and took their place. Postwar
> cars had full skirts over the trucks and the 9904-9907 had smooth carbody
> skirts over the power trucks as well.
>
> Charlie Vlk
>
> Keith,
>
>
>
> To add to Charlie's comments, as built, the E% definitely were all stainless
> steel except for paint and emblems. I have a photo that my dad shot on
> June17, 1940 when the units were brand new. It shows an A-B consist. At that
> time, the pilot appears to be stainless steel. The side skirts really aren't
> visible. As built, the E%s had unique truck skirts that covered the upper
> portion of each truck and hid any sign of a carbody skirt. In Dad's photo,
> the truck skirt is missing over the rear truck of the B unit. The train the
> units are pulling was a Kiwanis special operating between Chicago and the
> Twin Cities for a Kiwanis convention. At the time, it was supposedly the
> first complete train of non articulated streamlined equipment to operate on
> the Q.
>
>
>
> Here is a link to the photo
>
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/109517272707102411928/RailroadPhotos?authkey=Gv
> 1sRgCPbdtsfxhPSVRw#5783038043454817250
>
>
>
> Bill Barber
>
> Gravois Mills, MO
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:43 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/message/41303;_ylc=X3oDMTJwOXNuMWNzBF9TAz
> k3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE3MTI3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjA0MzAwNARtc2dJZAM0MTMwMwRzZWMDZG
> 1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzQ2NDI3ODAy> Re: E5 details
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> Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
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> <mailto:cvlk@...?subject=Re%3A%20E5%20details> "Charlie Vlk"
> n_cbqguy
>
>
> Keith-
>
> The units came from the factory with only the striping and lettering in
> paint. Everything else was Stainless Steel. There was some variation in
> the level of polish but I would just go ahead and paint everything in Alclad
> Stainless unless you want to research all the photos available and try to
> develop an area by area diagram of varying Stainless Steel finishes.
>
> The upcoming Kato unit will first be offered in the As-Delivered scheme.
> Black stripes. The unit at IRM has a replacement pilot (there were three
> different styles of Pilots on the E5s as delivered) and the IRM version is
> one style of the replacement regular steel pilots which were painted
> silver(some had what look like E7 pilots applied which do not follow the
> contours of the originals).
>
> Check photos for the unit you are doing..you may want to match the "phase"
> of the unit as well. the Valerio shell, being based on the LifeLike E6, is
> closest to a Phase II (the Kato will be a PhaseI which is like an E3 with
> the parallel to the rails roof radiators vs. the perpendicular style of the
> E6).
>
> Charlie Vlk
>
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