David Vartanoff wrote: "Ah yes, the Slumbercoach, Sleepercoach and Slumber Room
Coach."
Thanks very much for all that information! I had not run across the Slumber
Room Coach reference yet!
>From the _Sentinel_, I presume the BO Bird 16/4 cars were built to plan 9636.
What plan were the BO/MP 24/8 cars that later went to the NP built to? Were
these all plan 9540? Does anyone have a high resolution scan of that plan they
could loan out for publication?
Did the Q cars follow the same plan?
Thanks and RSVP!
John Phillips
Seattle
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The "genuine" Slumbercoaches were purpose built by Budd althjough the
name was a Pullman Company trademark. These are the 24-8 cars leased by
B&O, MP, NYC, and CB&Q/NP.
The "bird" cars previously built by Budd for B&O were 16 duplex
roomette-four double bedroom First Class cars.
When the leases ran out on the high capacity cars (which was [part of
the economics of selling beds for coach ticket plus low room charge)
B&O redesignated the 16-4s (which they owned)as Slumber Room Coaches
(not a Pullman Co trademark) thus selling nominal first class space at
coach pricing. This was done on other roads as well. Back when
Slumbercoaches were introduced on the Denver Zephyr (which carried two
cars some years), Union Pacific leased spome PRR 21 roomette cars
painted them in yellow and grey lettered Slumbercoach for the City of
Denver. After a season UP gave them back, the Q ran them right up to
Amtrak day one.
PRR and ACL 21 roomette cars were run as Budget Room Coaches in the mid
60s and by 67 B&O bird cars went to SCL n(ACL/SAL merger).
Finally New York Central sent previous first class sleepers in the xxxxx
Harbor series back to Budd to be rebuilt into Sleepercoaches (NYC
operated after leaving the Pullman CO) These 16 singles 10 doubles thus
more like the originals. Most of those cars went to Amtrak operating
until Viewliners arrived. The ex B&O bird cars also went to Amtrak but
were variously sold atboth first class and slumbercoach fares.
"Lieutenant Commander (F)'s arguments were based on the fact that _he_ had been
in the Navy since 1954 and had flown with Nelson at Trafalgar, and _I_ was some
Midshipman So and So." -- Inez Mischitz, H.M.S. _Hermes_, October 4, 1979
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