William
I was going to refer you to the ICC website but Norm beat me to it. I wanted
to read it over to be sure I had my facts correct.
Since the engineer, whose fault the whole thing was, was killed it has to be
the fireman who was continuing to collect his pay...Here's my guess on why.
You will recall that the fireman who was relatively inexperienced and the head
brakeman who was even less so both tried to tell the engineer that he was on
the time of No.30, but the old head engineer never gave a satisfactory answer
to them. Even the conductor knew what was going on, and warned the engineer,
but took no action until it was too late.
My thinking is that the fireman and head brakeman were disciplined or perhaps
even fired. The fireman and maybe the head brakeman may have "gotten back" to
work after some time off. That was a common practice in those days..He may
have even been awarded pay for "time lost" and that was what he was drawing
sometime afterwards...
If memory serves correctly you are the gentlemen who worked as a fireman here
in Lincoln in the early 1940's and submitted you timebook for analysis. IF
this is so then you wil understand what I mean when I say that "the
intimidation factor" entered greatly into the events that led up to this affair
I was personally involved in a situation here on the Wymore Divison in nineteen
fifty seven which could have resulted in an affair like the Broomfield matter.
In those day no young brakeman or fireman would dare to question an old head
engineer, let alone take physical action against him......It just wasn't done.
You can talk all you want about the rules which which provided for such action,
but in the culture of theday it just didn't happen
Pete Hedgpeth..former trainman Lincoln and Wymore divisions 1956- 8
-----Original Message-----
From: William <wmsallee@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 4:08 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Re: 1958 Broomfield Colorado wreck
That was an interesting read. I am still curious to know who that surviving
crewman was who continued to collect a paycheck four years after the event and
why he would have remained out of service. I wish I could remember the name.
What I do recall is that no one wanted to talk about the incident.
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Norm Metcalf <n.metcalf@...> wrote:
>
> See http://dotlibrary.specialcollection.net/ scroll down to 1958,
> scroll down to CS and click on the second entry (the first entry is the
> Chugwater WY head on). Also, Hol Wagner's The Colorado Road has material.
> Norm Metcalf, Boulder Colorado
>
> On 7/5/2011 8:35 PM, William wrote:
> >
> > I came across the photos of a wreck in 1958 between a C&S freight and
> > either #29 or #30 in Broomfield CO. My father had recently bought a
> > new house in Broomfield Heights and I remember the incident. Later,
> > during the early 1960's, I worked summers for the C&S as a roundhouse
> > clerk in Denver. Every payday one of the engine crew - fireman or
> > engineer - involved in the wreck would come to collect a check though
> > he was not in service. At the time, the subject was not discussed by
> > anyone. Does anyone of the group know the circumstances of the wreck
> > and why a crewmember would have continued to collect his pay several
> > years later?
> >
> >
>
>
>
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