Nelson
I think that the note re baggage should be interpreted to intend to
say....baggage will not be handled between INTERMEDIATE points between Chicago
and Omaha...Baggage in this case being "checked baggage"...It would not be
saying that the train did not carry passengers...only that they could not
check their baggage to any intermediate point between Chicago and Omaha.
You might get some help on this from Jim Christen in Naperville, IL..He does
not have or use e mail...He is an expert on Q passenger trains and worked in
the Burlington's Mail Baggage and Express department in the early 1960's...If
you want his address or phone number let me know and I'll provide it for you.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:48 pm
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Fast Mail Train Number Question
One more interesting fact. The 1938 passenger timetable page 9 lists the
consist of Train #15, Fast Mail, to include a lounge car, dining car,
sleeping car and chair car between Chicago and Lincoln. That doesn't sound
like a mail/express train carrying baggage only between Chicago and Omaha.
I'm going to get to the bottom of this yet.
Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:56 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fast Mail Train Number Question
Q public TT May 1938 shows No. 15 with name FAST MAIL and note that
"Carries baggage only from Chicago to Omaha and pints beyond.
ETT Ottumwa and Creston Divisions October 26 1958 shows No. 15 (Daily
passenger) operating only to Burlington
No. 29 (Daily Mail) operating Chicago-Galesburg-Ottumwa-Creston-Council
Bluffs-UP Transfer-Omaha.
Nelson if you are letting this matter keep you up at night you "better take
a pill"...I don't think that there is anyone currently still living on the
earth who can give a totally accurate picture of why the name and operation
changed over the years which it apparently did.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:09 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Fast Mail Train Number Question
I've been looking at timetables and books with timetable pages, and there is
a listing in 1947 and 1953 employee TTs for Train 15, Daily Passenger, yet
the Public TTs in some books by notable authors lists Train 15 as the Fast
Mail. A late 1950s TT and the 75th anniversary article by David Morgan talks
about Train 29 as the Fast Mail with no passenger service. The BRHS
Publication Index has a listing that reads, "Fast Mail train numbers &
consists Z43 p.16". I don't have access to Zephyr No. 43, so would someone
be so kind as to tell me what it has to say about Fast Mail train numbers
for various dates. A scan would be even better.
Nelson
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