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Re: [CBQ] Denrock Sub and around the horn

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From: "BRAD SLANEY" <bradslaney@wizard.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:01:48 -0700
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Occasionally a passenger train would have to go around the horn.  I was on the 
TCZ one Saturday in Nov 1959 and there was a wreck at Big Rock.  We waited at 
Aurora about 30 minutes while they decided which way to go. The wreck was 
sufficiently cleared for us to go the regular way.  That was my big chance to 
go around the horn on a regularly scheduled passenger train.  Oh well.

The abandonment of the Mendota/Denrock line was one of the largest manangement 
blunders I've ever seen.  Effectively, they could have had a double track 
railroad between Aurora and Savanna.  Whoever made that decision should be 
tried for stupidity.  I'll get off my soapbox now.

BRAD
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sholding@sbcglobal.net 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: 08/30/2005 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [CBQ] Denrock Sub and around the horn


  Tom
  Like Russ says Mendota to Denrock.  Between Sterling and Denrock you had to 
go over the CNW Sterling to Agnew to get back to home rails and on to Denrock.  
If you know what you are looking at you can see it along now I 88(or you could 
last time I was up in that neck of the woods)
  In the 1974-1983 BN era if you worked the Chicago Chief's position in the 
Cicero Dispatcher office you had to figure out the tonnage ratings on the 
trains coming south from Northtown.  All river grade from North town to 
Savanna.  If you did not have enough power and could not steal some from 
another train you would have to run it "Around the Horn"  Which meant down the 
"Peavine from Savanna to Denrock then over often also called the 9th Sub 
Denrock to Mendota.  This came in just west of Mendota and over the Mainline 
Mendota to Aurora.  A lot of Galesburg crews could not operate that way but the 
Aurora Crews could.
  Can't remember what year the locals all were renumbered in the BN Compass 
computer and they all had to be named.  The Local from Eola to Savanna(via 
Mendota) then back to Eola on the C&I(Savanna to Aurora) got the name "Horny 
Local"
  sjh
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: thommack 
    To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:44 PM
    Subject: [CBQ] Denrock Sub and around the horn


    In 1967/68 when trains ran "around the horn" from Savanna to Chicago
    through Denrock, which route would they have taken out of Denrock?

    1. Denrock to Earlville through Sterling, Rock Falls and Paw Paw

    or

    2. Denrock to Mendota through Walnut?

    What trains would have run this route from Savanna or Chicago in
    1967/68? I know the iron ore/taconite trains from Mpls-StP to Chicago
    (and back) went "around the horn", but were there any other scheduled
    freights that used the same route in 67/68?

    Tom Mack
    Cincinnati, OH

    P.S. Hope to meet everyone in Dubuque, but will have to see how my new
    job is going...




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