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From: "Ed DeRouin" <Ed@pixelspublishing.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:40:35 -0000
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I am enjoying the thread and thought I would toss in a couple of 
comments:

1.) As kind of a rebuttal about Bob's comment about 
photographers being selective, I suggest they may have been 
selective but not because of a mixed consist. Recall that many 
were interested in motive power. They focused on just the front 
end. As one who shot coming and going, I can only say that 
sometimes the going shot was too fast, blocked, or into the sun.

2.) As to why a dome coach was dropped from the 
consist....there were too few passengers to run a full 
compliment. Same is true for sleepers. By the late sixties, say 
1968 plus, passengers were flockng away from trains.

3.) Keep in mind that what you see in print may not be what 
happened. For example, the second section of the CZ was not 
headed from Chicago to California. In reality, it was a section of 
the DZ. The Q promoted the Denver business and filled the DZ 
with that business. 

Why a 2/17? Or 3/17? So that the sections could run ahead of the 
DZ schedule. Recall the rules, a train cannot leave a station 
ahead of schedule. It is easier for the operating department to 
run sections than extras. The section has class, direction (rights) 
and a schedule. 

4.) If you really want to be prototypical, do not run the ACL 
combine in the CZ. It belongs in the NZ and  often was cut out at 
Galesburg and run as an extra to Dayman. Remember, to switch 
out cars from the front of a passenger train requires time, a 
carman (for the steam line), and maybe an electrician. Those 
crafts were not always available at outlying stations.

5) Yes, the DZ did pick up local stops as other trains were 
discontinued. So did the CZ, but fewer because of the necessary 
arrival time in Denver.

hope this helps,

Ed 





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