----- Original Message -----
From: "Wagner, Hol
To: "'Norm Metcalf'" <metcalf@attglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Non-stock stock cars
> Norm:
>
> Another one for you to forward:
>
>
> Stock cars were also used for shipping perishables such as watermelons and
> cantaloupes, though the second deck would make any type of loading
> difficult. Some double-deck stock cars (though no Q ones that I am aware
> of) had upper decks that could be raised to the roof by chains, thus
> eliminating this problem. I have a great photo of a Trinity & Brazos
Valley
> stock car being loaded with watermelons. Of course, there weren't many
> water melons or cantaloupes raised in Q territory.
>
> Roof hatches were considered an extravagance when it came to coal loading,
> as labor was cheap and perhaps half of the coal mined in the early years
of
> the 20th Century was transported in boxcars -- and loaded in the same
manner
> as it would be into stock cars. Coke was a much lighter commodity and
thus
> could be loaded to a greater height in box or stock cars -- clear to the
> roof -- so it was impractical to load it by hand from inside roofed cars.
>
> Hol
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rupert and Maureen" <gamlenz@ihug.co.nz>
> To: <CBQ@YahooGroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:07 AM
> Subject: [CBQ] Non-stock stock cars
>
>
> >
> > Gents
> >
> > Thanks for your responses. Three points of interest about these cars -
> >
> > 1. As some of these stock cars were restricted to non-stock loading for
at
> least 4 years (1913 onwards and possibly earlier), one wonders why they
> weren't equipped with roof doors (or partial roof removal) to facilitate
> loading.
> >
> > 2. It is also surprising that some of them survived so long after being
> judged unsuitable for stock, and used for coal, etc.
> >
> > 3. Some of the cars were still shown as being double deck, and loading
> and unloading such cars would be slightly more difficult. Any quick,
witty
> comments about possible uses for double deck cars?
> >
> > The 10 stock cars that were listed as having roof doors for coke were
> class SM-8's built in 1907, but were shown as early as November 1909 as
> having the doors. One wonders why just 10 almost new cars were so altered
> when there were plenty of older stock cars available, or gondolas. The
> SM-8's had a capacity of 2086 cu. feet and 50 tons (reduced to 40 tons by
> 1914) compared to just over 1600 cu. ft and 100 tons for the 40' steel
> gondolas of the same period, so the cubic capacity wasn't much better.
Any
> suggestions?
> >
> > Rupert
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