On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:11:27 -0500, Rob Adams wrote
> The October through December 1936 public timetables show the
> following passenger trains running between St. Louis and Burlington:
>
> Northbound:
> Train 43 - Mark Twain Zephyr
> Train 1 - Fast Mail
> Train 15 - Twin City Limited
>
> Southbound:
> Train 44 - Mark Twain Zephyr
> Train 8-16 - Overland Express
> Train 12 - Referred to as Twin City Limited on one page and the St.
> Louis Limited on another
>
> Trains 1 and 15 ran through to Minneapolis, while trains 12 and 8-16
> originated in Minneapolis, running on the CRI&P. Were these Burlington
> trains or Rock Island trains?
Yes. That was the slot on the schedule which became the Zephyr Rockets in '41
It was a joint operation similar to the Z-R except that power was not run-
through.
> Can anyone offer information about specific consists of those trains?
> (obviously the Mark Twain consist is known) From the timetables, the
> through trains had sleepers,
I *used* to have a late '30s CRI&P timetable which specified rhe sleeper
layouts used - there was also a diner lounge and chair car. I would suspect
that Q and RI each furnished half-consists as they did for the ZR, and that
it was a mix&match on road names.
As for the Fast Mail, It was just what the name says. By the time I knew the
train, its only passenger accomodations were coaches behind RPOs, baggage and
mail storage cars - whether it ever had a swap-in/swap-out diner I can't say,
but doubt that it ever had sleepers.
>
> If they were Burlington trains, what motive power would have been
> typical?
>
> Is it safe to assume that B-1A or S-4 engines never routinely ran
> between Burlington and St. Louis?
As far as I know, they did *not*. I don't even think that line saw the S-3
Heavy Pacifics to any extent. Power would probably have been S-1a and S-2a
rebuilds. Q didn't like to put the older, unrebuilt power on long-distance
schedules - most of the unrebuilt 4-6-2s were kept in suburban territory . . .
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kind regards, Rob Adams
>
>
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