Bob: Really good question, but I have not found any documentation on
when these orange NE-12s were repainted. This is one of those devilish
questions I wish I could uncover the answer to. Can anyone on the List
help with this?
Mike Spoor
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:12:12 -0500 "Bob's Engine House"
<bobsenginehouse@m...> writes:
>Mike, do you have a date when the orange NE-12's were repainted into
>the
>Silver. Bob schafer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Spoor [mailto:CBQRR@j...]
>Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 11:39 AM
>To: hansons@b...
>Cc: BRHSList@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: NE12
>
>Roger: Thanks for the nice comments on the orange NE-12 (which is
>the
>ugliest waycar or caboose I have ever seen). I have spent lots of
>time
>researching the NE-12s, so here is what I know to be pretty accurate.
>
>1. The first car in the class, #13525, was sent to 14th Street and
>was
>inspected by railroad officials on 5-19-54. I have 5 photos of the
>car
>at 14th Street on that day. Look in Dan Holbrook's "Waycars of the
>CB&Q"
>on page 50. While the caption says the location is unlnown, that is
>in
>fact the 14th Street Coach Yard in Chicago. Until just 2 years
>ago,
>this was the only published photo of an oragne NE-12 that I am aware
>of.
>
>The photos I have are of several different views of #13525. The car
>is
>clearly all M-O-W orange. End platforms are black, as is the
>underbody,
>trucks and ladders on the ends. Window frames are aluminum in color
>(maybe made out of aluminum??)
>
>2. Dan's book states that there were 10 of the orange NE-12s.
>For many
>years we were not able to photographically support this. Bat and Hol
>found a photo that showed 3 orange NE-12s, all new at Havelock. They
>were
>cars #13525, 13526 and 13527.
>
>3. In 1999 Kalmbach published BRHS member Jeff Wilson's book on
>the
>Burlington: "Burlington Route Across the Heartland." Look on page
>45
>and you will find ORANGE NE-12 #13533 on the rear of the westbound
>freight crossing the IC diamond at Mendota. That is only the second
>photo I have seen published that shwos an orange NE-12.
>
>4. From what Dan and others have passed on to me, the official
>inspection
>at 14th Street resulted in management telling Havelock to find a new
>paint scheme and that the M-O-W orange wasn't acceptable. Havelock
>(and I
>am sure other interested parties) was told to come up with something
>Zephyr-like. And the silver scheme with the red stripe came to pass.
>
>5. Bat had given me a builders photo of NE-12 #13548 which is new
>at
>Havelock. The photo shows a date of 11-3-54. Dan's book shows
>#13548
>being built in September 1954. With this data, I think we can be
>comfortable that orange NE-12 production was over no later than
>November
>1954, and maybe as early as September 1954. #13548 was the 23rd out
>of
>the 1954 production of 35 class NE-12s. The best data I have is the
>statement in Dan's book that there were only 10 of these orange
>NE-12s.
>
>6. I used a 50/50 mix of Floquil reefer yellow and reefer orange.
> I
>have
>painted about a dozen CB&Q M-O-W pieces using this same mixture.
>
>I hope this helps. I will put this out onto the List so everyone
>can
>provide some input and comments.
>
>Mike
>
>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:21:14 -0600 (CST) <hansons@b...> writes:
>>Mike,
>>I recently received my copy of the Zephyr and saw the photo of your
>>award winning NE12 waycar. Excellent work!
>>I have a couple of questions which you obviously may be able to help
>>with on the NE12's.
>>A couple of weeks ago, I was fortunate to obtain my first piece of
>>brass - an Oriental Ltd. NE12. It was painted, however, in red -
>>which started no small discussion with my local CB&Q society
>>members. Some insisted that ALL the NE12's were silver (or
>>aluminum). My understanding was that the first 10 or so of the
>first
>>
>>run were painted MOW orange with a black roof. Your model seems to
>>confirm that - and I assume that you worked from a prototype photo.
>>The questions? First - am I correct about the MOW orange being on
>>the first 10 NE12's? and - Is it truly MOW orange? (The photo of
>>your model appears distinctly yellow, rather than orange).
>>I'd appreciate any input on this.
>>Thanks,
>>Roger Hanson
>>Kansas City, MO
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