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From: "Bob Webber via groups.io" <drgw18=gmail.com@groups.io>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 04:48:54 -0700
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Dave, I uploaded all my CZ consists and quite a few more to the file sections 
of the Passconsist IO group.   I believe I also have the Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr, 
KCZ/ARZ & other Zephyrs in that group.  There were over 1000 - not much, but I 
tended to concentrate on Zephyrs & CoSFs.  There are a few CZ, DZ & other Q 
consists in the Poole Consist books (1927-1967) on the main page of the Pullman 
Library.  

On the same page as the foreign cars is a LW spreadsheet that I stopped 
updating years ago - but it has more of the non-sleeper car information.   On 
the Research page, there is, at the bottom, the Car Construction Spreadsheet 
which i have to update....

I had hoped, when I heard about the 2nd edition/volume of the Portrait of a 
Silver Lady book. that it would focus more on the Consortium (CB&Q, D&RGW, WP, 
PRR, NYC, MP, SP, ATSF) and how they worked (what tier of membership, when some 
were added, others dropped).  I know that typically, the CZ was a mixed (RR) 
train - with the feature staffed cars (baggage, dorm-lounge, diner, buffet obs) 
were typically of the same road and the rotation differed for each crew by RR 
(the starting point basically OAK-WP, DEN-D&RGW, CHI-CB&Q)  I know the 
Zephyrettes were paid by the WP. Myriad other "standards" were in place - but 
it would be nice to see all that in one place.   I'm not sure the 2nd edition 
is even happening. 

I think the CSRRM has the CZ information.  





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