Re: [CBQ] Chambrettes

["Bob Webber via groups.io" <cz17=comcast.net@groups.io>]

Rupert, there were a few designs (mostly not implemented) that included the 
term.  Edward G. Budd & then Budd tried on a lot of terms not very 
successfully.     The original Slumbercoaches were named Siesta Coaches.   The 
AT&SF Hi-Level cars were categorized as "Gallery Cars", the original few years 
of design had the roomettes termed "Cabins", etc.   (Draftsmen at) Budd spent 
the years of WWII taking Plans of Pullman heavyweight cars and "reimagining" 
(as the term would be used today) them as LW streamlined cars - you take a 
floor plan of a P-S 10-1-2 and the Budd LW version, it's nearly identical.   
Butt they had different terms for many of the accommodations.  Chamberettes, 
Cabins, and such (among other events) were short-lived attempts at saying "we 
did nothin' bad" in taking the patented P-S designs and slapping their name on 
it.  

Part of this came up in the Antitrust ruling against Pullman, as there were 
some sleepers built/designed by Edward G. Budd for AT&SF & CB&Q that Pullman 
refused to staff as they felt them unsafe.  The Naperville wreck occurred about 
3 years too late to show that Pullman Co. was correct about that.  There were 
tariff issues with the names, and the use of some terms (like bedroom and 
roomette) that were not used as they "were Pullman terms" and in the Pool and 
crew assignments/agreements, a term could imply that the space could be 
confused if a bedroom was not crewed by a Pullman porter.  Union rules, Pool 
agreements, (Car) Assignments and ticketing all had to catch up.  In 1938 you 
didn't have non-Pullman-Standard built cars crewed by Pullman Co. staff, and 
the those sleepers built by AC&F & Edward G. Budd could not be staffed by 
Pullman Co. Porters.  The cache of "Pullman" service & and associated 
Pullman-Standard cars was deeply ingrained in the travel public.   

Many of the issues with the terms were swept up into the Anti-trust case, 
tariffs, union agreements,  and advertising.   And all of that was changed with 
the initial results of the case in 1945).  

The whole Intellectual Property one-upmanship produced many names & renames 
that never "took."  And, of course, different railroads would use their own 
terms well past their "due dates." 


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