Re: [CBQ] From M-4 To M-4-A

["Richard Townsend via Groups.Io" <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io>]

Speaking of slogans and "proposed but never built," the C&S considered adding a slogan/logo to some of its box cars, featuring a steer's head and the words "TZ [or Texas Zephyr] Brand of Excellence." I have never seen a drawing of this, only a description in the correspondence considering it. Does anyone have a drawing by any chance?

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

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From: Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net>
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Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] From M-4 To M-4-A

Dave and Group-

If somebody has some “proposed but never built” drawings in their collection scans of same will trigger the old computer to start churning text, artwork and photographs!!!

I have a couple of airbrushed photos (one of which I’ll have to find for Rupert’s current “slogans” effort….that I’ve kept hidden for fear that some manufacturer would get ahold of them and tool plastic  models that fall into the “proposed but never built” category…..

Charlie Vlk

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Lotz
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] From M-4 To M-4-A

 

Charlie,

 

You have heard and know the drill, he who suggests an article, gets to write it! ;-)

Dave

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From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io]On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] From M-4 To M-4-A

While on the subject of M locomotives....

….while none of the CB&Q M4 types have been preserved there is a DM&IR/B&LE copy that is still intact under cover awaiting preservation.

On several occasions Joe Douda and I had conversations where he mentioned that he had seen proposal drawings of conversions of M1 or M2 2-10-2s to 2-10-4 locomotives (M5???).   He also says there were diagrams or proposals for the next batch of O5s.....and that they were to have the M4 style high capacity tenders.

Like the section in Hol's The Colorado Road where he describes locomotives that the C&S proposed, I think a Zephyr or Bulletin article on "proposed but never built" might be of interest to Burlington fans.

I have a few drawings of proposed locomotives but the ones I mention here have so far eluded me.   Does anyone have these or others?  

Charlie Vlk

PS-   The CB&Q seemed to use the class designations as all uppercase and with no dash as in O5A.  Sometimes the main class designation was a larger size letter than the class number or subclass letter.   Should the BRHS promote this as part of our "style guide" and try to educate Q fans to the proper format??

I believe this has been a topic of discussion in other societies such as the PRRHT&HS.

 

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