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OK Leo, now you have me salivating! Are you saying that in the late 1960's there was some helper service shoving some trains eastbound out of Sananna?!?!? If so, does anyone have any photos or actual examples? I am most interested in what power might have been used. Would the Q just put a road power consist on the back end and shove to wherever, then come back, or what? This would make really great operations on my late 1960's era layout out of Savanna yard!!! BTW, I know that heavy trains, such as the GN ore trains from Mpls-StP to Chicago went around the horn so as not to gum up the C&I, but this is the first I recall hearing of helper use east of Savanna.
Tom Mack Cincinnati, OH ---In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, <qutlx1@...> wrote : Burke eastbound out of Savanna was always a challenge even in BN DAYS. It was some what routine to double or get shoved over. Most often it was a long slow grinding climb. In steam days the answer was to run a double header all the way from Savanna to Cicero. Someday I'll write an article on what the union files revealed. The Denrock- Mendota branch was a place to dump a heavy eastbound train so as not to gum up the C&I. Lots of claims for doubling Ohio and Walnut. But don't take any initiative and make one long single double over both in one move. If you did it was turned down as it was preferred to do two penalty 25 mile doubles as compared to the time saving, and better paying single 100 mile double. Same applied to So Ottawa hill west or southbound. Leo Sent from my iPhone __._,_.___ Posted by: thommack@yahoo.com __,_._,___ |