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Re: [CBQ] Tip Toeing No. 2569

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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:33:32 -0400
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Hol just for "grins and giggles" I'd like to posit that the guy standing on the front of the engine is the Road Foreman rather than the Section Foreman..My thought is based on what I perceive is the type of cap worn by Road Foremen rather than Section Foreman.

Road foremen tended to wear the "flat" type caps rather than the more "Kromerlike" caps usually worn by Section Foreman..This post is just to "stir up" a little discussion, just for fun.

Pete



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From: LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Tip Toeing No. 2569

 
August 22, 2016
 
Hol - THANKS for posting. That's one "flood and train" image I haven't seen before. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
 
In a message dated 8/19/2016 11:00:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]

Louis and Group:

Well, since you asked, here's another, presumably taken around 1930 and depicting K-4 No. 705 leading No. 48 through the south yards at Beardstown, Ill.  From the dress of the requisite lookout on the Ten-Wheeler's pilot beam, he's a section hand -- quite possibly the foreman -- familiar with the track over which the train is passing.

Hol


 



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[Attachment(s) from LZadnichek@aol.com included below]
August 18, 2016
 
Group - A thread some time ago discussed steam locomotives being able to run through high water over flooded tracks verses diesel locomotives that could not because their traction motors would short out. I just came across the inserted/attached image that graphically shows such an occasion many years ago:
 
  
 
The unidentified image shows CB&Q Class P-5 No. 2569 "tip toeing" over flooded tracks with a local passenger train. I first shared this image with Hol Wagner who commented that 2569 had been a Lines East locomotive and that the scene really could be anywhere in Iowa or Missouri. The 2569 was assigned to the Ottumwa Division in the 1920s and the Hannibal Division in the 1930s. Plus, I have another undated image of 2569 taken in Kansas City. From the forward bell position behind its stack, 2569 also had at some earlier time been used in Chicago Suburban Service. 
 
If you enlarge the attached image, 2569 is pushing a wave in front and water is splashing down from the main rod. The man riding the pilot as a lookout could be either the head end brakeman or a member of the section gang responsible for patrolling the flooded right-of-way. With the bare trees, flat gray sky and what appears to be a heavy coat on the man riding the pilot, the image was likely taken in late winter or early spring. No. 2569 must've been a "good" locomotive as it enjoyed a long service life on the Q and wasn't retired until October 1953, some 48 years after being built by Baldwin in 1905. 
 
This is only one of a handful of images I've ever seen of a Q steam locomotive powering a train over flooded tracks. Does any Group member have another such image to share? Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL 
 
   


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