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Re: [CBQ] Depot Location?

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From: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 14:14:39 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Depot Location? [1 Attachment]


Chris:


Good point; this location could just as well be Echeta.  I don't know when Echeta got its first coaling facility, but the 150-ton steel Ogle coal chute was erected there in 1918.  It doesn't seen likely that an earlier wooden chute at Arvada was relocated to Echeta or a new wooden chute built at Echeta in the Teens, only to be replaced by a steel chute in 1918.  So Arvada's coaling facility, whatever it may have been (I have seen no photos of it, only mention of it in company material), may have been moved to Echeta earlier than I thought.  I also don't know when Arvada's wooden water tank was replaced by the steel Chicago Bridge & Iron tank that still stands.  And what little background is visible in the 4104 photo seems to show flat plains -- more like Echeta than the big curve and river valley of Arvada.  So Echeta is probably a better guess for the photo location than Arvada, but obviously we're still guessing.


One thing I didn't point out in the photo (and it's also visible in the photo of 4106) is the LIGNITE lettering on the bottom edge of the tilting side of the tender coal compartment.  This lettering preceded the yellow square that came into use in the 1920s.


Hol




From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Chris Atkins tcatkins@gmail.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 11:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Depot Location? [1 Attachment]
 
 
[Attachment(s) from Chris Atkins included below]

Hol,

The photos I have seen of Arvada don't show a giant windmill next to the water tower. That size windmill seems like it would be better suited to a deep well rather than pulling out of the Powder River.

Could this be somewhere not near a river like Echeta?

Chris Atkins
Argyle, TX



On 7/3/16 3:33 PM, Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ] wrote:
 

Most of those who know me know that Burlington office cars and Mallet articulated locomotives are my two favorite Q equipment subjects, and I have accumulated more data and images of them than any other Burlington subject.  So the photo Brian posted of T-2 4104, along with a recent eBay offering of brand new 4106 beside the Alliance roundhouse with everybody in the area posing on the big engine, have been extremely pleasant and unexpected "gifts" for me.  While I can't be certain of the location of the 4104 image, it is a real gem, and I'm fairly sure it was taken at Arvada, Wyo.  I've cleaned up the image a bit and am attaching it and the 4106 photo (which, of course, I bought) and have written what I think is a credible description of the 4104 photo:


It's a calm but frigid late winter morning, with remnants of the last snowstorm still on the ground as T-2 Mallet 4104 takes water from the wooden tank at Arvada, Wyo., before running light back to its home base at Sheridan.  The big Mallet, only a couple of years old, has helped an eastbound freight up the grade from Sheridan, cutting off at Arvada and turning on the wye there before taking coal and filling the tank for the trip back to Sheridan, running light.  That it's a cold day is attested by the steam escaping from 4104's high pressure rear cylinders, twin single-lung air pumps and boiler-top pop valves.  And the cab curtains are down and in place in the event the notorious Wyoming wind makes the 58-mile trip back to Sheridan even colder.  The steam from the pop valves nearly obscures the giant windmill that pumps well water into the Arvada tank, which happily is not frozen up this day as the fireman poses for the photographer while he completes the task of topping off 4104's tank, having already refilled the tilting coal compartment and placed flags in the tender's stanchions.  As locomotive efficiency and tender coal capacity both increased in the Teens, Arvada's wooden coal chute would be abandoned and replaced by a modern Ogle steel chute 20 miles farther east at Echeta.


As I said, there is no way of being certain this photo was actually taken at Arvada, but the description fits what can be seen in the image, and there aren't many other locations where that would be the case, so I'm fairly certain it's Arvada.


Hol


From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of harleyhorse74@gmail.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 4:01 PM
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Subject: [CBQ] Depot Location? [2 Attachments]
 
 
[Attachment(s) from harleyhorse74@gmail.com [CBQ] included below]

Wondering if anyone recognizes this depot.  The lady who owns the photo thought it was in Alliance, NE.  I don't think the Alliance depot had a peaked roof line.  I''m not even sure if it is a CB&Q structure.  She also has a photo of CB&Q 4104 and thought the photo may have been taken in Ellsworth, NE.  Was this locomotive ever assigned to western Nebraska?


Thanks,

Brian




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