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Re: [CBQ] Re: A Trespasser - Is You Is or Is You Ain't

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: A Trespasser - Is You Is or Is You Ain't
From: Jerry Stauffer <milw265@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:01:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Well folks...it isn't a perfect world.....and we always blame the other guy, and the first thing that seems to come to mind is...lets sue someone.  hmmmmm  I've been asked numerous times by both RR policeand normal police what i was doing and when handled in the proper way the outcome was always a positive outcome.....and yes you will find one or two that want to hassle you....just move on....no darn photo is worth complications with the law....get over it folks!
 
Jerry

--- On Wed, 3/14/12, John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: A Trespasser - Is You Is or Is You Ain't
To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 7:50 PM

 
The issue here is why report people on public property as trespassers i.e. when they are not? Some local LEO reports you to Asset Protection and then they put you in the database as a trespasser. No business should be allowed to do this! It stinks. It is libel and I hope someone sues them.

From: Chuck Hatler <gnhistory07@live.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: A Trespasser - Is You Is or Is You Ain't

 
Robert and friends on the Q list,
 
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate getting on the list, Robert.  Thanks for the heads-up.  And thanks for all you do for the rail community. 
Yes, this is a really good and very important discussion.
 
As a retired BNSF employee,  who  heard the stories from folks involved, there are bad, mean, nasty, rotten people among us who intend to create mayhem, death and damage actually posing as railfans!  Imagine the audacity of it!
 
I don’t believe you will find the story written in any article, but after the local trainmaster and some other employees had run a couple of guys off the property more than once in Kansas City, they wrote down the license number and turned it over to Asset Protection.  Seems the boys were filming our fueling areas, the fueling areas at the Airport, and other such things.   Hmmmm.  Did they just like fuel trucks?  Nope. 
 
In another case,  trespassers were riding on a stack train out of New Mexico.  One of them managed to get killed in the yards at a crew change point because he did not know how to even get on the train.  But his buddy rode on, only to be spotted by passing trains.  They did a couple of rollby searches for the guy, but could not find him.  Easy enough to move from side to side of a double-stack, moving to the opposite side when the lookee is on one side.  Only when the train pulled past a yard tower were they able to spot the guy, with his benign backpack.  He was not a Mexican and they figure he was probing. 
 
So. the company has extremely valid reasons to be figuring out who you are and what you are or are not doing. 
 
Chuck Hatler
KC MO




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