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Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail
From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:52:37 -0400 (EDT)
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John et al

I trust that this little discussion will impress the "younger generation" as to 
the intricacies and all the intimate details of railroad and station accounting 
procedures.  It's unbelievable the detail the railroads went to to account for 
"every little thing".  If it was done there were instructions somewhere that 
covered the matter..And "woe be unto" the new hire who didn't know of or follow 
the instructions.   

I once incurred the wrath of an old time accountant at the Rock Island by 
writing a draft to the CB&Q to pay for tickets for two car inspectors we were 
sending out to testify in a court case......DON'T YOU KNOW YOU DON'T EVER WRITE 
A DRAFT TO ANOTHER RAILROAD he yelled at me when the cleared draft came over 
his desk....He berated me for some minutes for my ignorance of railroad 
procedures.

For the record my ignorance is still in full bloom in this matter...Although it 
has been explained to me many times I still do not know or understand the 
difference between a CHECK and a DRAFT    To this day I can remember the agent 
on the RPL&N saying he was going uptown to the bank to get a DRAFT.
I know no more about these matters  now than I did 60 plus years ago.

Pete








-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail


 

With a little digging I found it. Yes, the corpse escort ticket was a reduced 
fare. Interestingly, an excess baggage check was issued for the casket but no 
revenue was reported on the baggage report but the baggage report was to show a 
complete description of the corpse ticket. The complete corpse ticket was 
attached to the baggage check (form 62), to be forwarded. This was, of  coarse, 
at the destination.

From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail

  
Pete,
 If I remember correctly it (the escort's) was a reduced fare and IT was round 
trip! I don't have my agent manual or conductor's instructions handy.
John

From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail

  

Dan

There is a picture "out there" which would be perfect for your 
demonstration...Only problem is I can't remember exactly where I saw it..I'm 
copying everybody you included in the hope that someone will recall it. 

The scene was "down south"..probably in the 30's or 40's...showing the hearse 
backed up to the depot platform with the undertaker and his helper standing by 
while the casket was being unloaded from the baggage car.

This may have been in "Classic Trains or its predecessor Vintage Rails or 
perhaps even TRAINS.

I'll begin a search, but it will striclty be by memory of where it is.....

Just to add to what John Mitchell said, there was a provision in the tariff 
which provided for an escort to accompany the casket...I don't recall the 
details.

On a personal note I have, on more than one occasion observed the unloading of 
a casket at Langdon, MO on the CB&Q and the scene was just as depicted in the 
photo mentioned above.

Pete Hedgpeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel <no17eng654@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:31 am
Subject: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail

As part of the Manly Jct. Railroad Museum (Iowa)displays, we will have 17 flat 
screens depicting different North Iowa-Southern Minnesota railroads. In 
addition, we will feature things like Railway Mail Service, Railway Express, 
etc. Many human remains were transferred in North Iowa and Southern Minnesota 
by rail up to discontinuance of most trains in the late 60's. 

Would anyone out there be able to share a photo that would demonstrate the 
common scene of handling human remains by train? 

Dan Sabin
No17Eng654@aol.com

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