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[CBQ] Re: Thoughts on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Thoughts on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr
From: "Mike Abernethy" <tcz.silverview@att.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:12:13 -0000
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--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Bob Webber <rgz17@...> wrote:
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>
 Trains operated often WB through CB - due to mail & express 
> transfer.  Multiple sections of the DZ would go on different 
routes, 
> depending on the trains involved - though, mostly - multiple 
sections 
> of the DZ were termed CZ follow-on sections rather than the DZ 
> sections so that they could take advantage of an earlier schedule.
> 
> At 06:59 PM 10/21/2008, Stephen Levine wrote:
> >I think most of the Chicago-Omaha trains operated via Council 
Bluffs.
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> >If I remember correctly from timetables -- which I probably do not 
> >-- the CZ operated both directions down the west bank but the DZ, 
> >until the 1960's, operated westbound via Council Bluffs and 
> >Eastbound, via the west bank.
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Gentlemen:
A good way to put to rest some of your wonderings is to check the 
employee time tables published between 1949 and present. They will 
hopefully have the documentation to show which trains were routed 
either on the east or west side of the Missouri PJCT to OMA. I do not 
have a selection of them, but undoubtedly there is someone who does. 
As a  semi-frequent rider on the DZ during the late 60's I never 
traveled the east side PJCT-CB-OMA.

Mike Abernethy
Former CB&Q PSGR DEPT EMPLOYEE



> >sjl
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> >--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Rick Keil <rkeil6721@...> wrote:
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> >From: Rick Keil <rkeil6721@...>
> >Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Thoughts on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr
> >To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
> >Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 11:44 PM
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> >Please forgive me, I thought the original post addressed this in a 
> >round about way. Not having grown up during the hay days of 
> >passenger travel, and only traveled a couple of times on Amtrak, I 
> >may have had some misconceptions. The freight versus passenger 
route 
> >has indeed been discussed. My thought was more to the handling of 
> >the train and the passengers therein. Since the Ak was an 
overnight 
> >train, I would guess (maybe wrongly) that passengers would still 
be 
> >asleep when they arrived in Council Bluffs and that the Q would 
take 
> >precautions on "disturbing" the customers. But it appears that 
> >cutting off the head end cars would not be that rough and most of 
> >the passengers would be up anyway getting ready for the arrival to 
> >Omaha (or Council Bluffs if they were detraining there).
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> >http://windowslive. com/connect/ post/wedowindows live.spaces. 
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> Bob Webber 
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