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Subject: [CBQ] Re:U23C's
From: Ed DeRouin <Ed@pixelspublishing.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:10:28 -0500
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Brad and Others:

The U23C locomotives. like the U25Cs, were purchased as replacement  
power for SD9s. In the case of the U23C locomotives, the horsepower  
was not of primary interest; attainable tractive effort with a  
smaller prime mover was. Regardless of the alleged better deal from  
GE, in that era, many roads were fed up with the tactics and products  
of EMD and GE was the only other player. Forget Alco, they were in a  
death spiral. By providing opportunity for GE by purchasing their  
products, GE was able to improve, compete, and eventually outsell  
EMD. That era is definitely outside that of the CB&Q, but the  
purchases or leases of U25B and C locos, and later models, may not  
have given the engineers the locomotive of choice, but sent a loud  
message into the now empty offices in LaGrange. If you are unsure of  
the impact of GE on the locomotive market, look at how Alco and EMD  
responded when GE introduced the Universal line in 1961.

Brad, your email caused me to smile because I never thought of the  
Alliance or Sheridan Divisions as locations for speed runs. Recall  
that in those days, the territory was a far cry from what is seen  
today. IIRC, the line was single track, protected by ABS, and had  
some controlled sidings with a low traffic density.  Tractive effort  
was what was needed to conquer the hills.

Regards,

Ed DeRouin

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