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Re: [CBQ] C.B.&Q. Passenger Car in Lyons, CO?

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] C.B.&Q. Passenger Car in Lyons, CO?
From: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:46:35 -0500
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A C&S car:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Real-1906-Pullman-Passenger-Coach-Colorado-Southern_W0QQitemZ200133275317QQcmdZViewItem

Though someone gave him wrong information.  The original Lot is 3367 
plan 2145-A No. 542 - 548 (though it might have been renumbered).

BTW, a mail-passenger car in the same era was recently sold (though 
in considerably better condition) :
http://www.railmerchants.net/cs/index.html


At 08:46 AM 7/26/2007, Brian Adams wrote:
>Hello Group,
>
>I joined a few day's ago seeking answers to a couple of questions I
>have. I appologize if this get's a little long..
>
>My name is Brian Adams. I am on the Board of the Denver, South Park &
>Pacific Historical Society in Colorado. A couple of weeks ago we were
>contacted about the availability of a "1906 Pullman Passenger car"
>and a 1950's era steel caboose sitting on Main St. in Lyons,
>Colorado. I was picked to take a look since I only live about 35
>miles away. I contacted the owner & made arrangements to meet the
>following day.
>
>I was given access to the interior of the Passenger Car by the
>present occupant who has been running his business out of the cars.
>(he is a Celtic Artist). I know very little about standard gauge
>passenger cars-Pullman built or otherwise so I will pass on what I
>noted & the limited information I received from the present occupant
>& owner.
>
>-The Colorado RR Museum had informed them that the Passenger Car had
>  originally been used as a Diner and later a Visitors Center in
>  Winter Park, CO. A sister car is also being used as a commercial
>  structure in Nederland, CO.
>-Both cars are sitting on the ground on some type of foundation. All
>  of the running gear on the passenger car has been removed. The owner
>  said that the trucks & running gear had been setting in a
>  residential front yard until a few weeks ago. He had attempted to
>  sell them with no takers & finally ended up selling them for scrap!
>  I could not confirm this.
>-The Passenger car is wood sheathed with closed vestibules. (appears
>  to be approx. 60 ft. in length. The occupant said that several
>  layers of various colored paint had been removed. The car had been
>  Maintenance Orange when it was moved to this location. The
>  vestibules have some kind of steel sheating attached with some type
>  of round head nails. This sheathing is painted a Pullman Green.
>  The letter board has the number 1906 on both ends with Burlington
>  in  the center. This lettering appears to have been added after
>  stripping.
>-All glass has been replaced...lower side windows clear...upper side
>  windows someone's idea of stained glass. Looks like the clerestory
>  windows may be clear acrylic.
>-The interior is being used as an office/storage/residence. The
>  car is attached at a 90 deg. angle to a hole cut in the side of the
>  caboose to allow pass thru. I could find no
>  original/seating/appliances, etc. The 2 side rooms on both ends of
>  the car are still in place...one lavatory is in use with updated
>  fixtures. The opposite end looks like it may have had a small
>  cookstove at one time, just a guess.
>-The mahogany side wall paneling is in surprisingly good condition. I
>  could not tell the condition of the floor since it was covered with
>  rug's, bookcases, etc.
>
>The D.S.&P.H.S. was not interested in acquiring the car/cars since
>this car had little to do with the "South Park" other than possibly
>having the same parent company at one time.
>
>The restoration group headed by Jason Midyet in Boulder, CO had shown
>an interest. Unfortunately the owner is looking at this as an
>investment. He had them appraised by an Eastern Railroad Auction
>house. They said $65,000 for the Passenger Car & $9,500 for the
>Caboose. I told the owner I would pass on this information in case
>someone is interested. I told him I would also try to find some
>additional info. on them if I could.
>
>If there is any interest he said I could pass on his Name & Phone No.
>& could be contacted directly.
>
>Thanks for any help you can pass my way. Sorry about the length of
>this....The moderator will probably get bored about halfway thru &
>toss it in the trash bin!!
>
>Brian Adams
>Director
>Denver, South Park & Pacific Historical Society
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Bob Webber 



 
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