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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Locomotive Lights
From: "homanfamily" <homanfamily@fuse.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:38:54 -0500
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My May 1951 Rule Book (CB&Q, C&S, FW&D and Wichita Valley) contains the 
following:
    Rule 17 'the Headlight will be displayed to the front of every train by 
day and by night.  It must be concealed or extinguished when a train turns 
out to meet another and has stopped clear of main track or is standing to 
meet a train at end of two or more tracks or a junction.
     It must be dimmed while standing in yards when yard engines are 
employed.
    When an engine is running backward a white light must be displayed by 
night on the leading end.
    At night, when standing or moving about yards, road engines without cars 
must display a red light to the rear

Rule 17a discussed that a headlight failure at night then a white light is 
displayed to the front with the bell ringing continuously and the whistle 
sounding often.  Also speed is reduced and the dispatcher notified.
    There are additional sections under Rule 17 concerning failure of a 
headlight before a train is clear of the main, requires flagging, and 
dimming the light rather than extinguishing it in CTC territory.

Rule 18 states yard engines will display the headlight to the front and rear 
by night.  When not provided with a headlight to the rear, a white light 
will be used.
    This is followed by a note that the headlight on the end coupled to high 
cars may be extinguished.

Rules 19 through 26 discusses marker lights, flags and blue lights.

 This is the latest Rule book that I have for the Q.  I note similar 
instructions in several L&N Rule books.

    Let me pose two questions.  I grew up in Cincinnati and Southeastern KY, 
where my granddad was an engineer on the L&N.  I never saw a steam engine on 
the L&N run with the headlight on until 1956, shortly before all fires were 
dropped.  I first noted steam locomotives running with headlights on  while 
on a family vacation to Yellowstone Park in 1951.  I was told as some point 
on the trip that this was required on the plains and in the West due to the 
high speeds of trains that the whistle was not sufficient warning for 
motorist.  This made sense.  My question, when did this practice start?

    The second question is are there any video's or sound tapes of Q, C&S or 
especially FW&D steam.  I want to know what type of whistles the locomotives 
had.  In this age of sound for models, I would like to get it right.  L&N 
had the same whistles on all steam locomotives, which is a lovely high 
pitched chime, but I admit prejudice.  N&W had different whistles on the 
Y's, the J's and the S class 0-8-0's.  What did the Q of the FW&D do?
    Thanks for your help.
                                                                             
                Patrick Homan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Myers, Scott V." <svmyers@southernco.com>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Locomotive Lights


> What were the rules the CB&Q followed with regards to headlights and
> rear lights on their diesel locomotives?  Were the head lights only lit
> when the unit was going forward, and the rear light on when in reverse?
> Or, were one or both lights always on?  Did the practice vary between
> the switch engines (SW, NW, S-2, VO1000) and road switchers (GP, SD, and
> U-boats)?  Also, did the rules vary over time?
>
> What about the headlights and mars lights on the lead locomotives of F
> and E units?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Myers
>
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